Hi John,
My experience was similar to yours, when testing AT4022s a) to SD702
direct and b) via Denecke phantom power unit to an Olympus LS10.
That is, there was more noise using the Denecke.
What we need now is a comparison of good mics via the iRig (which
includes a pre-amp as well as power supply), then via a unit that
only supplies power, running to a small flash card recorder (e.g.
Sony or Olympus). The iRig may make a difference, but hard to say
how much.
cheers,
Vicki
On 02/12/2012, at 10:28 AM, rock_scallop wrote:
> Hi Vicki, Marco, others
> It may be worth a mention, in comparison tests I did this spring,
> between the AT3032 directly into a SD702 and the AT3032 into a PCM-
> M10 via an Art Phantom II phantom power supply, the PCM-M10
> recordings were significantly noisier - presumably due to the
> inferior inputs of the PCM-M10. This suggests to me the benefits of
> using the lower self-noise AT3032 rather than the low-cost EM172
> are reduced substantially when used with "the smaller flash card
> recorders."
>
> John Hartog
> rockscallop.org
>
> --- In vickipowys
> <> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marco,
>>
>> I listened to your sound clip. It seems to show just how good the
>> EM172s really are. The AT3032 is a top quality mic but the EM172s
>> easily match their quality for the robin recording. It is typical
>> that the EM172s are brighter than the AT3032s, and the latter also
>> have stronger lower frequencies. The iRig seems in this case only to
>> be a way of providing 48 V phantom power and connecting the AT3032 to
>> one of the smaller flash card recorders.
>>
>> An interesting test, and thanks Marco!
>>
>> Vicki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/12/2012, at 7:18 AM, wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> I listened to your Robin songs with interest, and assume the extra
>>>> 'presence' in
>>>> the second half is due to the iRig's extra gain?
>>>
>>> Hi Max,
>>> I think the "extra presence" is due to the fact that the AT3032 has
>>> the capsule facing towards "outside" the parabola, consequently
>>> captures more environmental noise than the two EM172 connected in
>>> parallel but with the capsule facing inward the dish. We must also
>>> consider the goodness of AT3032, surely higher in quality than that
>>> of EM172. However, the song of the Robin, in my opinion, is equal
>>> if not higher in the first part relating to EM172, although drier,
>>> less soft than the second part recorded with iRig Pre + AT3032. Are
>>> you in accord?
>>> On the other hand, it is practically impossible to arrange an
>>> AT3032 with the capsule at the focus of the Telinga Universal and
>>> facing it inward the dish.
>>> Theoretically, being omnidirectional microphones, the direction in
>>> which they are addressed (In or OUT) in the parabola should not
>>> have much importance, but in reality I think that some influence is
>>> heard, at least in the background.
>>> ...but, at this point, it would be better to hear the father of
>>> Telinga... Klas!
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Marco Pesente
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In "Max" <maxcatterwell@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marco!
>>>> I can't believe I ordered mine a few days after you, and you still
>>>> haven't got yours!? You WILL find it much easier.
>>>> I listened to your Robin songs with interest, and assume the extra
>>>> 'presence' in the second half is due to the iRig's extra gain? I'm
>>>> not familiar with the Roland R05; does it have sense settings like
>>>> my LS-10?
>>>> I was fascinated to see that record insects underwater!
>>>> Extraordinary!
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In m.pesente@ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Max!
>>>>> unlike you, I'm always waiting for my lead adaptor from US!
>>>>> So, for now I'm always experimenting with my complex system
>>>>> linking iRig Pre and Roland R05 or Olympus LS5 etc.
>>>>> This is a link http://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/
>>>>> robin-3phrasesem172-2caps-vs to an IRigPre+AT3032 Vs EM172's
>>>>> practical test.
>>>>> See the note posted on Soundcloud for settings of the microphones
>>>>> in Telinga Universal.
>>>>> We feel as soon as the cable will come to me!
>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marco Pesente from Italy
>>>>>
>>
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