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Re: That "Wavy Thing" (was: Miniature Pseudo-SASS Array)

Subject: Re: That "Wavy Thing" (was: Miniature Pseudo-SASS Array)
From: "Curt Olson" flipov411
Date: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:24 am ((PDT))
Thank you, Keith, it's good to have you here!

And thanks for the quote. "Swimmy." I like that one a lot. And the fact that it 
didn't come from me makes it all the better.

Curt Olson

Keith Smith wrote:

> Curt,
> I hope yet another adjective added to the lexicon is more help than
> harm.
> 
> This is an extract from Crown's memo22yr.pdf (bottom of page 25) ,
> extolling the virtues of PZM's, which has recently but not too
> mysteriously disappeared from their site. The (Bold) is mine. The full
> entry is rather interesting, although not much help, technically. I
> assume most folks interested in this sort of thing might have read it
> before.
> 
> "Tim Guhl, Cultural Resources Council, Syracuse, NY, says:
> ...Syracuse Symphony Orchestra and the Opera Theatre of Syracuse...
> Formerly, we used a Neumann SM 69 FET in a `midside" setup. With
> this we employed a woodwind sweetener mike, this to cover the swimmy
> image right at the center of the mid-side configuration. We were quite
> pleased with the mike setup and had spent some three years developing
> the technique. We even recorded a disc for New World Records and
> another for Peters International with this system. Then we ordered the
> PZMs. The rest is history..."
> 
> This is my first post here after lurking constantly for several weeks. 
> I'll take the opportunity to thank all contributors for a most 
> interesting and educational list. Doing a little research on the most
> frquent  posters has also led me to some fascinating blogs -seems it's
> time to get some woodworking tools.
> 
> Keith Smith
> Calgary
> 
> --- In  Curt Olson <> wrote:
> 

>> No. I hear the slight phasing error at 180 degrees, but that's not
>> that I'm talking about.  I could point you to some examples out there,
>> but that would be grossly impolite and I won't do it. I will say,
>> however, that MS and ORTF arrays are both quite prone to it -- not
>> always, but often enough that I've observed a pretty clear pattern.
>> 
>> Probably the best thing I can do at this point is to try generating
>> the effect myself with an ORTF array and post it along with a
>> simultaneous recording from a boundary rig. Please stand by... we've had
>> one of our grandchildren here for the last few days and I'm behind of
>> several other commitments. But it is now on my "to do ASAP" list.
>> 
>> Curt
> 
>> 
>> Klas wrote:
> 
>> 
> 
>>> Curt, at http://klas.telinga.com/demo/walkinginacircle.mp3.
>>> 
>>> you will hear a little of what I call phasing at 180 degrees.
>>> Is that what you mean by wavy?
>>> 
>>> Klas






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