Thanks Greg...I have a lot to learn about this, I can see..but it'll be won=
derful.
Diane
--- In Gregory O'Drobinak <=
.> wrote:
>
> lovely!
>
> I can appreciate your comments about the wind, but to get a good recordin=
g of
> what the wind *really* sounds like can be very difficult.
>
> I just recently did some nature recordings and what I thought was hissy m=
ic
> noise at first turned out to be some trees in the background with small l=
eaves.
> So sometimes it doesn't work out as you expect.
>
> The best thing to do is work with it as much as you can in many settings.=
Follow
> what your ears tell you (get a good pair of headphones, too, so that you =
can
> monitor the result in real time) and follow your heart.
>
> - Greg
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DIANE <>
> To:
> Sent: Fri, June 8, 2012 5:08:01 PM
> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: beginner needs help with recording
>
>
> Thank you Greg!All of you are so helpful, I really appreciate it.
> I've been reading the posts about the Sony PCM-M10 and I will check out t=
he
> other links you posted, thank you.
> I'm okay with wind etc, it adds to what I'm doing musically, so that does=
n't
> bother me...it's inspiring to create music with the wind and the listenin=
g to
> the trees and leaves.
> Thanks again,
> Diane
>
> --- In Gregory O'Drobinak <gmodrobinak@=
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Diane:
> >
> > The noise is being generated by your mic & recorder preamp, not the bat=
teries.
>
> > Both items create noise due to their construction and the quality of th=
e
> > internal electronics.
> > The gear you have is maybe OK for music, but it was not designed for th=
e quiet
>
> > sounds of nature recording. Thus, when you increase the gain beyond a c=
ertain
> > point, you also amplify the inherent noise in that gear. There is no *g=
ood*
> > solution but to replace said gear.
> >
> >
> > I suggest getting a better recorder, like a Sony PCM-M10, and a better =
pair of
>
> > mics.
> > There is a wealth of info on the archive of this list regarding the sel=
f-noise
>
> > of mics & recorders and various solutions to this dilemma, many of whic=
h that
> > are *relatively* low in cost.
> >
> > You can do a web search for 'mic self noise' or 'recorder self noise' a=
nd get
> > some good answers as well.
> >
> > Here's a few links:
> > http://naturesound.org/?p=3D116
> >http://www.gearslutz.com/board/remote-possibilities-acoustic-music-locat=
ion-recording/722756-portable-recorder-low-noise-floor.html
> >l
> >
> > http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_field_recording.htm
> > http://www.avisoft.com/app_audiorecording.htm
> > http://bartus.org/akustyk/noise_testing.php
> >
> > One other thing that will come into play is noise created by the wind a=
nd also
>
> > by nearby tree leaves. This requires care in mic placement and wind
> protection.
> >
> > I hope that this helps! Read a lot as I've said, try to=C3=83=C2=82 und=
erstand it and then
> >
> > ask more questions.
> >
> > Also, see if you can borrow or rent some better gear before you jump in=
with
> > your pocketbook!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Greg
> > =C3=83=C2=82
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: DIANE <cbbmo@>
> > To:
> > Sent: Fri, June 8, 2012 4:19:51 PM
> > Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: beginner needs help with recording
> >
> > =C3=83=C2=82
> > Thanks for responding David, I will try audacity.
> > Do you think the batteries in the mic are contributing to the hiss?
> > Diane
> >
> > --- In "Avocet" <brini@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I realize that all of you have been doing this at a high level for
> > > > some time
> > >
> > > Diane,
> > >
> > > Yes, but we may not all admit to it. :-)
> > >
> > > I have a routine for de-hissing using the free Audacity 2.0. You
> > > select a sample of the quietest bit of the recording. I then put this
> > > through a bass roll-off filter which gives a rounded slope of 6 dB pe=
r
> > > octave (on my web site):
> > > http://www.stowford.org/sounds/eqcurvesadd.txt
> > > HPF800-2-4-6nr
> > >
> > > I can post a graphic of the curve if this doesn't make sense.
> > >
> > > What this does is to make artifacts disappear into the backgroud nois=
e
> > > without producing tinkling.
> > >
> > > In Audacity 2.0*,
> > > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/
> > > put this sample into "Effects - Noise Removal", restore the original
> > > (CTRL-Z), select all and run "Noise Removal" with:
> > > -0dB
> > > 500 Hz
> > > Try various attack times if you can hear the difference.
> > >
> > > If you have an extreme example, take a new sample and do it again
> > > rather than go more than -9dB. It will sound artificial but helps wit=
h
> > > species recognition in dodgy recordings.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > David Brinicombe
> > > North Devon, UK
> > > Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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