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Re: newbie intro and question

Subject: Re: newbie intro and question
From: "Philip Tyler" macmang4125
Date: Sun May 13, 2012 3:00 am ((PDT))
Hi

When I had a couple of K6/ME66's and I tried the different powering options=
 and I thought that the mics were 'nicer' when powered by phantom from my M=
ixPre. Rather than when powered by the AA cell when the 'noise' was 'dirtie=
r' and therefore more noticeable but was probably still within the spec.

My K6/ME66's were returned to Sennheiser as one was noisier than the other =
when powered by an AA cell. They replaced the power unit in the noisier one=
 and when I got them both back they were then both the same on AA cells. Th=
ey were always both the same when powered by phantom even before they repai=
red the faulty one.

Phil


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Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] newbie intro and question


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Vichi, apart from easier handling, have you found significant differences t=
o use the microphone Sennheiser ME66 powered by its own AA battery than a P=
hantom Power P48?

Marco Pesente
Italy

--- In  vickipowys <> wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> I would suggest you purchase one of the smaller digital recorders
> such as Olympus LS10 or LS11, or Sony PCM-D50 / Sony PCM-M10, all of
> which have been well tested within our group.  You may be able to buy
> one for around $300 or so.  Buy or make a furry windcover for it.
> Use it first with the built in mics, find out what it will do and
> what are the shortcomings.
>
> Then add:
> small, inexpensive, electret microphones ($10) such as Primo EM172 -
> these use 'Plug-in-Power' of about 2-3 volts provided by the
> recorder.  These electrets need some DIY to connect them up and can
> be used in a parabolic reflector, or in other types of DIY rigs.
>
> But aim for:
> professional-quality gun mic such as Sennheiser ME66 which is powered
> by its own AA battery.  With a handle and furry wind cover e.g. Rode
> pistol grip PG2 and Rode softie wind shield WS6 (cheaper than Rycote
> by a mile).  This can connect directly to your recorder for close up
> species recordings.
>
> Learn to use:
> sound software that will show waveforms and sound spectrograms
> (sonograms) so that you can study your recordings in detail. e.g.
> Audacity (free), Raven (free), and many others for both PC & Mac.
>
> What you already have:
> Sony digital voice recorder - anything that records can be useful!
> But pay a bit more and the quality will be much better.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>
> Vicki Powys
> Australia
>
>
> On 10/05/2012, at 10:34 PM, Alan Harvey wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Just found and joined this group, and will follow the format
> > suggested in
> > the FAQ for this very basic question.
> >
> > Stop me if you've heard this one! I'm interested in exploring
> > nature sound
> > recording but have limited budget and experience.
> >
> > 1) Although I've long been intrigued by natural recording, I'm
> > acting now
> > largely because I'd like to incorporate an audio component into the
> > Field
> > Biology course I teach. Because our main goal will be to capture
> > recordings
> > (birds, orthopterans, and frogs) in the field that we can later try to
> > identify, I think we'd want these sounds to have as much separation
> > from
> > the background sounds as possible.
> >
> > 2) Realistically, most of these recordings would take place in
> > either urban
> > settings or natural settings within a mile of urban development.
> >
> > 3) I think portability and "on the go" would be valuable attributes
> > in a
> > field biology class. I'm not sure about sound qualities; I suspect
> > noise
> > would be best minimized, but stereo image and spatiality probably less
> > important (I may be biased here, as I'm deaf in one ear!).
> >
> > 4) Total budget almost too embarrassing to mention; probably less than
> > $300, at least initially. There are a couple of internal grants,
> > ranging
> > from $500 to a few thousand, that I could apply for with some
> > preliminary
> > data/experience (see next question). I doubt I currently own any
> > relevant
> > gear (does a Sony digital voice recorder count?).
> >
> > 5) I view this as a try-out exercise with the potential for
> > considerable
> > expansion if I can make it work in an educational (college
> > undergraduate)
> > setting. On the other hand, it's just the sort of activity that I
> > could get
> > personally addicted to regardless of whether it works in class!
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated. There apparently once was a
> > shotgun
> > mike somewhere in the department, but its location is currently
> > unknown, so
> > I haven't been able to try it out to get some baseline experience.
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alan Harvey
> > Associate Professor of Biology
> > Georgia Southern University
> > Statesboro, GA 30460-8042
> > (912) 478-5784
> > fax (912) 478-0845
> > http://www.bio.georgiasouthern.edu/bio-home/harvey/index.html
> >
>











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