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Re: newbie intro and question

Subject: Re: newbie intro and question
From: "vickipowys" vpowys
Date: Sun May 13, 2012 1:10 am ((PDT))
Marco,

I have used phantom powered and battery powered ME66 with the Sound
Devices 702 but I have never actually measured the difference in
signal quality.  I had not noticed anything significant.  Maybe I
should compare them, if I do I'll let you know!

Mostly I use phantom with the SD702, and battery with the Olympus
LS10, but the two recorders are very different so hard to make a
comparison there.

cheers,

Vicki


On 13/05/2012, at 3:38 PM,  wrote:

> Vichi, apart from easier handling, have you found significant
> differences to use the microphone Sennheiser ME66 powered by its
> own AA battery than a Phantom Power P48?
>
> Marco Pesente
> Italy
>
>
> --- In  vickipowys
> <> wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>>
>> I would suggest you purchase one of the smaller digital recorders
>> such as Olympus LS10 or LS11, or Sony PCM-D50 / Sony PCM-M10, all of
>> which have been well tested within our group.  You may be able to buy
>> one for around $300 or so.  Buy or make a furry windcover for it.
>> Use it first with the built in mics, find out what it will do and
>> what are the shortcomings.
>>
>> Then add:
>> small, inexpensive, electret microphones ($10) such as Primo EM172 -
>> these use 'Plug-in-Power' of about 2-3 volts provided by the
>> recorder.  These electrets need some DIY to connect them up and can
>> be used in a parabolic reflector, or in other types of DIY rigs.
>>
>> But aim for:
>> professional-quality gun mic such as Sennheiser ME66 which is powered
>> by its own AA battery.  With a handle and furry wind cover e.g. Rode
>> pistol grip PG2 and Rode softie wind shield WS6 (cheaper than Rycote
>> by a mile).  This can connect directly to your recorder for close up
>> species recordings.
>>
>> Learn to use:
>> sound software that will show waveforms and sound spectrograms
>> (sonograms) so that you can study your recordings in detail. e.g.
>> Audacity (free), Raven (free), and many others for both PC & Mac.
>>
>> What you already have:
>> Sony digital voice recorder - anything that records can be useful!
>> But pay a bit more and the quality will be much better.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>>
>> Vicki Powys
>> Australia
>>
>>
>> On 10/05/2012, at 10:34 PM, Alan Harvey wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Just found and joined this group, and will follow the format
>>> suggested in
>>> the FAQ for this very basic question.
>>>
>>> Stop me if you've heard this one! I'm interested in exploring
>>> nature sound
>>> recording but have limited budget and experience.
>>>
>>> 1) Although I've long been intrigued by natural recording, I'm
>>> acting now
>>> largely because I'd like to incorporate an audio component into the
>>> Field
>>> Biology course I teach. Because our main goal will be to capture
>>> recordings
>>> (birds, orthopterans, and frogs) in the field that we can later
>>> try to
>>> identify, I think we'd want these sounds to have as much separation
>>> from
>>> the background sounds as possible.
>>>
>>> 2) Realistically, most of these recordings would take place in
>>> either urban
>>> settings or natural settings within a mile of urban development.
>>>
>>> 3) I think portability and "on the go" would be valuable attributes
>>> in a
>>> field biology class. I'm not sure about sound qualities; I suspect
>>> noise
>>> would be best minimized, but stereo image and spatiality probably
>>> less
>>> important (I may be biased here, as I'm deaf in one ear!).
>>>
>>> 4) Total budget almost too embarrassing to mention; probably less
>>> than
>>> $300, at least initially. There are a couple of internal grants,
>>> ranging
>>> from $500 to a few thousand, that I could apply for with some
>>> preliminary
>>> data/experience (see next question). I doubt I currently own any
>>> relevant
>>> gear (does a Sony digital voice recorder count?).
>>>
>>> 5) I view this as a try-out exercise with the potential for
>>> considerable
>>> expansion if I can make it work in an educational (college
>>> undergraduate)
>>> setting. On the other hand, it's just the sort of activity that I
>>> could get
>>> personally addicted to regardless of whether it works in class!
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. There apparently once was a
>>> shotgun
>>> mike somewhere in the department, but its location is currently
>>> unknown, so
>>> I haven't been able to try it out to get some baseline experience.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Harvey
>>> Associate Professor of Biology
>>> Georgia Southern University
>>> Statesboro, GA 30460-8042
>>> (912) 478-5784
>>> fax (912) 478-0845
>>> http://www.bio.georgiasouthern.edu/bio-home/harvey/index.html
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause.
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