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Re: MixPre-D

Subject: Re: MixPre-D
From: "Michael Raphael"
Date: Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:18 am ((PDT))
Jensen transformers would be great.

On Apr 28, 2011, at 10:04 AM, natureguyusa wrote:

> Yes, I caught that about the mixer switches after my post. I guess I look=
 for fader pan controls when I think of mixing. I also noticed that it has =
two more channel inputs via the aux input which is good. What I was saying =
about the DSLR feature was the relatively uncommon connector in use. Oh, ab=
out those transformers, they may have some use in isolation at the cost of =
much increased distortion, and much decreased common mode rejection compare=
d to modern integrated circuits. I am not a fan of transformers.
>
> I am designing a similar unit, that has all the same features as the MixP=
re-D, plus some very needed additional features. No USB connectivity for no=
w. Our unit will have much better specs using the latest parts available, b=
e much lower cost, at least 2-3 times the battery life, and more. It may no=
t be built quite like a tank, but more in-line with normally built equipmen=
t. The design is still on-going as we try to add more features and fit ever=
ything in a smaller enclosure.
>
> If anyone has some features you always wanted to see in field mixer/pream=
p, let me know and I will see if we can add it in. Our units will be availa=
ble before the end of the year.
>
> Bruce Rutkoski
> Owner
> www.natureguystudio.com
>
> --- In  Jeremiah Moore <> wrot=
e:
> >
> > A few quick points in response:
> >
> > - the "mixer" aspect is in the pan switch at the bottom of each channel=
.
> > Each input channel can be assigned to outputs L, R, or center.
> >
> > - the DSLR features are a fact-of-life for interfacing with certain cam=
eras
> > which are in widespread use (Canon 5D for instance.) It's a compromised
> > recording situation. Unfortunately, in the video world, compromised
> > recording situations are quite common. This is a "make the best you can=
 of
> > it" feature. If quality matters, and you're shooting a 5D, you record
> > double system. (i.e. a separate sound recorder.)
> >
> > - What you're paying for is not just the mic pres, but the metering, th=
e
> > I/O, the field-ready robustness, phantom power, M-S matrix, tone and sl=
ate
> > features, headphone returns (these are used to monitor audio coming bac=
k
> > from a video camera in a production sound scenario.) This is a piece of
> > gear people are going to stake their careers on, so it needs to be buil=
t to
> > handle the real world of production.
> >
> > I, for one, am rather excited about the MixPre-D. One way I see it is a=
s a
> > replacement for the Pro Tools M-Box, with some field-mixer and
> > swiss-army-knife features thrown in. If it's too many features and you
> > don't want to pay for them, don't buy it.
> >
> > -jeremiah
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Patricio <> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Excuse me, but the MixPre has transformers on the inputs as well as t=
he
> > > MixPre-D.
> > >
> > > I really like the design of the MixPre, it is unclear whether the Mix=
Pre-D
> > > keeps the same quality.
> > >
> > > --- In  "natureguyusa" <Natureguy@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The MixPre-D doesn't look like anything to be excited about judging=
 from
> > > the specs. It appears to be their old design with a couple of new fea=
tures,
> > > and is more expensive. Transformer inputs are a joke in comparison to=
 modern
> > > integrated circuits. The input noise and dynamic range of the digital=
 out is
> > > comparable to a $200 Sony PCM-M10, which has an integrated recorder. =
The
> > > 103dB digital output is a very inexpensive add-on and is closer to 16=
-bit
> > > quality than being 24-bit. There is no spec given for input noise wit=
h the
> > > phantom power turned on nor when at lower gains. It is certainly a ba=
ttery
> > > hog. The connectors for the dedicated output for DSLR use are uncommo=
n, so
> > > their idea is to sell an expensive cable to you that you will have tr=
ouble
> > > finding if you needed one in a pinch. I am still trying to figure out=
 what
> > > are the "mixer" features of this microphone preamp? It does give XLR,
> > > phantom power and novel AES and USB output, which are very useful fea=
tures.
> > > The AES out can not be used at the same time as the XLR outputs. As a=
 DSLR
> > > mic amp, the signals are amplified then attenuated which just injects=
 noise
> > > from from the circuitry. All the current DSLR mic amps do this, and m=
y guess
> > > would be that at least the MixPre-D might be better than DSLR mic amp=
s from
> > > BeachTek or JuiceLink, who don't even really give specifications for =
their
> > > products, but at almost twice the price.
> > > >
> > > > Just my thoughts from looking over the information,
> > > > Bruce Rutkoski
> > > > www.natureguystudio.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In  Paul Jacobson <pj@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like Sound Devices have released a new version of the MixPr=
e with
> > > usb interface.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.sounddevices.com/products/mixpre-d.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Judging by the preview video it's a pretty neat bit of kit.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > jeremiah moore | SOUND | 
> > http://www.jeremiahmoore.com/
> >
> >
> >
>
>










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