The below was first posted yesterday and pertains to the use of
external mics with the M10 and D50. It did not get through for some
reason. Sorry!
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Hi Steven and welcome to the list!
Yes a number of people on this list can do what you ask. ;-) Both by
applying Raimund's measurements to the Rane Chart to determine how
low the self-noise/sensitivity computation would have to be for the
input noise of the M10 and the D50 to become audible and then
comparing these numbers to relevant recordings and experiences people
can confirm. Takes both for the prediction to be reliable.
That said, its easier and probably better to look at specific mics
you want to use. "Pro" mics vary a lot in terms of noise/sensitivity
performance. Also, do you want to make a lot of "high gain"
recordings-- like record ambience in places with low background sound
levels?
Its often more efficient to start with the budget, choose the mics
and array and choose the recorder last. Rob D.
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At 5:27 PM +0000 3/18/10, Steven wrote:
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>Hi folks,
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>Once again reaching out to the collective wisdom of the group...
>sorry if this is a bit convoluted.
>
>I'm choosing a new field recorder, for urban as well as nature recording.
>
>For 'ultra portable' I have a Yamaha Pocketrak 2G (noisy, no limiter
>but very handy).
>
>For 'transportable', I have a MixPre and an antique minidisc, with
>various external pro mics. So the front end is good, but the
>minidisc is the weak link.
>
>What's missing is a hand held that's small enough to be (usually)
>convenient but significantly higher quality than the little Yamaha.
>
>Built in mic quality and low self noise are very important to me for
>this purpose. I assume that if I need XLR/Phantom, I would continue
>to use the MixPre via line in.
>
>I've spent some time going thru the list archives, Raimund's Avisoft
>site, and the Wingfield noise floor examples, among other places,
>and I think I have narrowed it down to the Sony D50 or M10. I prefer
>the variable pattern of the D50, and prefer the smaller size of the
>M10....
>
>Question 1: Based on my needs and present kit, does anyone have any
>strong recommendations for or against these two?
>
>Question 2: I notice that the mic self noise of the M10 seems to be
>lower than the D50 (17 vs 20), but the EIN (as measured by Raimund)
>is a few dB higher. Can anyone comment on how these measurements
>would translate into real-world differences between the two?
>
>Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>
>Steven
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