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Re: LS-10 plus DPA 4060

Subject: Re: LS-10 plus DPA 4060
From: "clay" dan.cesonrocks
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:18 am ((PST))
Thanks Much, Bernie.

Yes, the folks at York are rather well known in Ambisonics, I think.  I'll
reach out to him via the Sursound list.

cheers,
clay


On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Bernie Krause <>wr=
ote:

>
>
> It was a pretty elaborate system set up by Tony Mayatt, a professor at
> the University of York, and a developer who works closely with the
> ambisonic folks. You're certainly welcome to contact him: =
<am12%40york.ac.uk>
> He's developed a conversion process whereby one can take a stereo
> omni, XY, or MS recording, and convert it into a really credible
> ambisonic performance that's pretty damned impressive.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2009, at 7:20 AM, clay wrote:
>
> > Bernie,
> >
> > Can you share more details on the Ambisonic system, and what the
> > processing
> > chain was between two shoulder mount 4060s to 16 channels?
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> > Clay
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Bernie Krause <=
m<chirp%40wildsanctuary.com>
> > >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Used a SD Mix-pre, Michael. The combo was truly
> >> remarkable...especially when the audio files (recorded at 44.1/24bit)
> >> were played back through a very elaborate Ambisonic system with 16
> >> speakers.
> >>
> >> Bernie
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 14, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Michael Raphael wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Bernie,
> >>>
> >>> How did you provide phantom to the mics? Did you use an external
> >>> pre-amp and feed the line input on the LS-10?
> >>>
> >>> I am looking for a small recorder like the olympus recorders or the
> >>> New Sony record to feed with a line output from my Sound Devices
> >>> MP-2 to use with my DPA 4060s.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 14, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Bernie Krause wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> When in the UK working with Chris Watson last week, I tried a
> >>>> pair of
> >>>> his DPA 4060 (hi sens) lav omni mics mounted on each shoulder.
> >>>> Earlier
> >>>> in the week, I had tried to record wave action at the shore of the
> >>>> North Sea with the regular LS-10 mics. Because of the 90 degree
> >>>> spread
> >>>> between capsules, the phase cancellation at the high end of the
> >>>> spectrum was quite noticeable. However, with the shoulder-to-
> >>>> shoulder
> >>>> spread of the DPAs, that all disappeared, the low end of the wave
> >>>> action was present, and the discrimination, detail, and depth was
> >>>> pretty impressive. So much so that I've just bought a pair.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bernie
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 13, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Dan Dugan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Raimund Specht's tests show that the preamp noise is the
> >>>>>> same for the two machines.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Last weekend I did my first recording with my shoulder-mounted
> >>>>> Telinga EM-23 mics into my LS-10. Gain was high-5 or 6. The
> >>>>> recording was noticeably noisier than the same mics with a Sharp
> >>>>> MD-
> >>>>> MS722, gain L-15. I was planning to replace our Sharp MDs with
> >>>>> LS-10s, but now I'm not so sure. I'll try low gain and a higher
> >>>>> pot
> >>>>> setting before I decide.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Dan Dugan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >>>>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> >>>>> Krause
> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> >>> Krause
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Wild Sanctuary
> >> POB 536
> >> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> >> 707-996-6677
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> > Krause
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Wild Sanctuary
> POB 536
> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> 707-996-6677
> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>  <chirp%40wildsanctuary.com>
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