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Re: Renamed Site: Visit to the Master Recordists

Subject: Re: Renamed Site: Visit to the Master Recordists
From: "George Paul" geopaul7
Date: Mon Jul 9, 2007 7:08 am ((PDT))
--- In  Rob Danielson <> wrote:
>
> At 5:10 PM +0000 7/8/07, George Paul wrote:
>
> Rob D asked:
>
> >>What rig was used for the "Cerulean Warbler Soundscape,"  your AT835 ->=
 DAT
> >>or the mkh20-30 rig?
> >>http://web.mac.com/geopaul/iWeb/The%20Visit/2_files/webpublish%20bounce=
.mp3
>
> At 5:10 PM +0000 7/8/07, George Paul wrote:
>
> >The Cerulean warbler soundscape was with my AT 835 ST > Sound
> >Devices MP2 > Sony
> >mini DAT.
>
> I see that AT has the 835's side mic capsules spec'd at 26dBA self
> noise, and the mid at 22dBA.
> http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/b92dc794916f0fa7/index.html =

> Its noise performance seems better than that to me. It will be
> interesting to compare it to the mkh20-30 combo. Did you have the LF
> cut on? Did you use the non-matrixed M-S mode or one of the
> internally-matrixed left/right stereo modes? The woodpecker decay
> moves to the center. Perhaps there was a valley-like landform in
> front or behind the mic?
>
> --
> Rob Danielson
> Peck School of the Arts
> Department of Film
> University of Wisconsin- Milwaukee
>
>

Rob:  Geoff  Keller also recorded the Cerulean warbler soundscape.  When he=
 returns from
Canada I will ask him to send it to me, and I will post it, so we can do a =
side by side of the
two MS rigs.  I did have the LF cut on on that one.

The AT 835 ST is a short shotgun, I think, for the M mic.  Geoff had an omn=
i for his M mic.
I like the more directional M mic better for the MS technique.  On that not=
e, one of the
takeaways on this trip is that I think that two omnis in a SASS or modified=
 head array give
superior sound, as they do not depend on off axis response for the stereo a=
spect of
things.  This is why I am investng in a SASS, with two AT 3032s.

On this recording, I recorded non-matrixed and decoded in the studio in Log=
ic Pro 7.2
with one of its plug ins.

The woodpecker decay is way cool.  I don't think there was a valley like la=
ndform.  What
there was was a large field, with woods surrounding it, maybe 100 yards awa=
y.  The
woodpecker, which I believe is a Pileated, was drumming from the woods.  I =
suppose the
sound started in the woods, moved across the field, and then moved back int=
o the woods.
What is your thinking there.  The area where the woodpecker was would be on=
 the left side
of the photo where Geoff is adjusting the Sennheiser rig (mine is already s=
et up in the furry
coat), through the opening and about 100 yards or so away.

The strange thing about these decays is that the mics, and recordings, pick=
 them up better
than our ears I think.

Please let me know your thinking on the decay issue.






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