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Re: single-point stereo mic

Subject: Re: single-point stereo mic
From: "Volker Widmann" volwid
Date: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:56 am (PDT)
Hi Walter,

now I can see that this is a serious matter that concerns erveryone of
us in one way or another.
In fact I remember having problems with screws that seemed to look the
same but didn't fit the same.
So thanks for this enlightenment.


Volker


Walter Knapp schrieb:

> --- In 
> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>, Volker Widmann <>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Walter,
> >
> > I could not find out anything about the wentworth
> > thread. Could you be so kind as to tell us what it is.
> > I'm sure it is a big laugh. :-))
>
> Sorry, I shorted out on spelling, try Whitworth. It's biggest problem
> is it uses 55degree thread pitch whereas both the UNF & UNC that was
> the standard in the US, Canada (and Britain) and the ISO metric are
> 60degree pitch. That means that all the carbide threading inserts,
> which are 60 degree, cannot cut this thread. Even if you got the TPI
> correct. You are much more limited in cutting tools for the thread.
> Though you can grind your own lathe tools to match from HSS. And, it's
> nearly impossible to find new fasteners in this thread system.
>
> The British did sign on for the UNF & UNC system in 1949 as the
> standard, but continued to use the Whitworth based system until they
> went metric. This was most troubling in working on any British
> produced autos and such like. I still have rethreading tools for
> working with this stuff, but it's really hard to find. And
> occasionally you still find it on new stuff.
>
> There are quite a few thread standards you can trip over, here's some
> links for more reading:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Thread_Standard
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Thread_Standard>
> http://www.gewinde-normen.de/en/index.html
> <http://www.gewinde-normen.de/en/index.html>
>
> For instance I use UNF standard 1-72 thread screws in the mod SASS to
> hold the support tube. And UNC standard 10-24 screws to hold the
> backplate on. In metric, even coarse, these would be much finer
> threads and more of a problem as they go into plastic. I would prefer
> to use UNC 1-64 thread screws instead of the 1-72, but have not found
> a supplier for the screws in stainless.
>
> I've never found what standard the 5/8 - 27TPI thread of audio mic
> supports came from. (like is on the tripod mount clamp from Crown for
> the SASS) There is also a 7/8 - 27TPI thread associated with
> audio. These sizes are hard to cut on a lathe as most lathes have no
> 27TPI feed, I can't cut them on my lathe without a custom lead screw
> which would be very expensive. Taps and Dies in these sizes are
> special order items and expensive. I managed to get two of each of the
> sizes taps and dies a few years ago. I'm very careful when I use them.
>
> It gets a whole lot less amusing when you have to deal with this sort
> of changing standards. My tools are dual sets of metric and the
> Unified standard. Costs double to be equipped but I can handle and
> machine both. Here, as in England, metric is the newcomer. Just
> recognizing and using the correct thread can be a problem. My tractor
> and it's implements contains fasteners, pins and connectors that are
> metric and non metric. And the tractor, though it says Ford and New
> Holland on it was made by Mazda in Japan. And is definitely not all
> metric. Same with all my cars, a mixture of standards. And we have not
> even gotten into all the variations of head designs.
>
> Walt
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Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
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