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Re: Re: Mid-side techinique with studio mics (Now Blumlein)

Subject: Re: Re: Mid-side techinique with studio mics (Now Blumlein)
From: Rob Danielson <>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:23:31 -0500
Thanks for sharing the files Greg! The middle does seem a little
soft, possibly under-mixed. Do you remember how did you patched your
mix-down?  Seems like there might be a way to bring it up. .

With the variable multi pattern NT2000's, one should be able
experiment with most two mic stereo configurations. Effective
shock-mounting for these heavy mics is a design factor to take on
early early because it can limit how close the mics can be placed and
still be fully moveable.

In a very live space like a canyon, detailed renderings of the subtle
reflections in two carefully selected directions might produce better
results than trying to capture the whole surround. Large diaphragms
can excel at detail.  I'd be excited about being able to compare
cards and omni's in OTRTF spread from 8" to 21" both with and without
a barrier in my tests. M-S or Blumlein might come out on top, but
in-the-field comparison is the beauty of the NT2000's.

Was the pleasant spatial rendering with Blumlein you are describing,
Klas, achieved with the traditional Blumlein set-up? E.G 90 degree
rotation with the two mics vertically aligned?  Rob D.

  =3D =3D =3D

At 2:31 PM +0200 4/18/06, Klas Strandberg wrote:
>In my opinion, if you work with directional's anyway, the Blumline
>configuration is outstanding for naturesound recordings, unless you are
>really facing something in front of the mic.
>Blumline gives more "space" than M/S.
>
>Klas.
>
>At 13:43 2006-04-18, you wrote:
>>On 4/17/06, John Hartog <> wrote:
>>  > Very enjoyable recordings Greg, thanks for sharing. The front to back
>>  > L/R flip flop is not all that noticeable to me: but I suppose you mus=
t
>>  > have been listening while watching the bird fly straight overhead.
>>  > I've heard much worse back to front folding from binaural recordings.
>>  > To get stereo from Blumlein does one use a process similar to M/S?
>>
>>Not that I've done it, but you can do M/S with 2 fig 8 mics and when
>>you matrix it, you should get a Blumlein arrangement.  Though Blumlein
>  >is usually done in an X/Y pattern with 2 fig 8 mics.
>>
>
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Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee


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