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Re: Mid-side techinique with studio mics (Now Blumlein)

Subject: Re: Mid-side techinique with studio mics (Now Blumlein)
From: "John Hartog" <>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:49:51 -0000
Very enjoyable recordings Greg, thanks for sharing. The front to back
L/R flip flop is not all that noticeable to me: but I suppose you must
have been listening while watching the bird fly straight overhead.
I've heard much worse back to front folding from binaural recordings.
To get stereo from Blumlein does one use a process similar to M/S?

John Hartog



--- In  "Greg Weddig" <>
wrote:
>
> Last summer I made some Blumlein test recordings in Sierra Valley, CA.
>  My recollection of the recordings was the imaging seemed off since
> there was no frontal "sound stage" it is basically all around.
>
> Specifically I remember when anything flew front to back it seemed to
> switch sides as it crossed over the mic array.  I think there is an
> example of this in track the second example below.
>
> Here are two unedited examples:
>
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~graudio/SierraBlumleinMD102Trk01.mp3>
>
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~graudio/SierraBlumleinMD102Trk03.mp3>
>
> --greg weddig
> Baltimore, MD
>
>
> --- In  Curt Olson <cro@> wrote:
> >
> > Bruce Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > What I'll do this summer is spend time in the red rock canyons
> getting
> > > as full a stereo soundfield of natural sounds and their
> reverberations
> > > as I can. ORTF blocks out a sector of sound, so does MS.
> >
> > Do you mean the fact that they are forward-facing arrays and not full
> > surround? If so, something like Rich Peet's cube mic array might be
> > worth considering.
> >
> > Blumlein is great in concert halls, but to my way of thinking, maybe
> > not the best for natural soundscapes -- at least if you're hoping to
> > capture good directional cues.
> >
> > Also, regarding ORTF vs MS, there are many good reasons to prefer MS,
> > but ORTF captures important time-arrival differences between Left and
> > Right that help give a sense of space. I don't believe MS can do
that.
> > (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
> >
> > Curt Olson
> >
>







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