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Subject: Re: What's Up When Birds Sing?
From: "Jeffrey D. Daub" <>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:02:12 -0700
--starting to sound sort of like semiotic thought or ecosemiotics... Sol
Worth also wrote some interesting papers in an attempt to bridge some of
these conceptual gaps between culture and nature...

After doing a lot of research on related theories and thoughts, I also
feel that systematic thought and communication theory though can be very
much limited by the particular semantics of the contexual disciplines/
perspectives we attempt to decsribe them with. Such is the problem with
'learning theory' vs. 'communication theory'. I believe that each time
we take a step back and consider a natural system from a more 'macro
view',  we are getting closer to to finding the true answers to many of
our questions; yet limited within the semantics/ language of a
particular genre, we are perhaps just driving on theoretical ashphalt as
opposed to walking through the theoretical forest and making systematic
observations based on true consciousness...

Jeff

PS: Ok... no more coffee for me... back to lurking



Wild Sanctuary wrote:

>As we come to terms with how we in the West have described "nature"
>sounds in our various forms of art, we often find a profound
>contradiction between our intent as artists and what we produce which
>is natuarlly a reflection of our culture and it's disconnection to
>the natural world. It is my strong feeling, both as a professional
>musican and a naturalist, that the music-or-nature ouvre, in
>particular, is more emblematic of this break in the circuit, than any
>other art form (with a few notable exceptions such as Schafer).
>
>So, herewith another view...which, by the way, is the subject of my
>new book which should be published sometime late 2006. The article
>was published first in Rothenberg's "Terra Nova" magazine (MIT Press).
>
>http://www.wildsanctuary.com/natmus.pdf
>
>Bernie
>
>=20
>
>>Congratulations you fortunate American people!  Those of you, that is, wh=
o
>>can get to the Hemmerdinger Hall, 100 Washington Square East, NYC on
>>Saturday evening (April 16, 4-7 pm).
>>
>>If one really could turn green with envy, I'd now be as bright as the new
>>leaves on the Poinciana tree outside my study window.
>>
>>You will recall that on March 12 Doug (Von Gausig) congratulated Nature
>>Recordists member Don Kroodsma on the Audubon article featuring him.  Now=
,
>>free and open to the public, he will be part of, and I quote:
>>
>>    "... the first event in New York to bring scientists together with
>>musicians and poets to explore how these different approaches to the worl=
d
>>have explored and made sense of bird song".
>>
>>David Rothenberg, composer, jazz clarinettist (and Professor of Philosoph=
y
>>at the New Jersey institute of Technology), and Michael Pestel both have
>>much experience of bird song, its musicality and of playing (music) with
>>birds, to contribute to the evening.   Lang Elliott, valued contributor t=
o
>>Nat/Recs, Biology Professor Fredric Vencl (at SUNY Stont Brook) and Ofer
>>Tchernichovski will be adding their erudite knowledge of bird song to the
>>proceedings.   Breyton Breytonbach and Alan Vardy provide expertise in th=
e
>>poetry department.  While Eric Salzman - "once music critic for the New Y=
ork
>>Times, (and) now a composer ... and a contributing writer to Birding
>>Magazine" - will, I assume, be competent to keep their collective feet on
>>the ground.
>>
>>What a feast in store.  No wonder I wish I could be there.
>>
>>Syd Curtis
>>(in Brisbane, Australia)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>A listening room is not nature."
>>Klas Strandberg
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>=20=20=20
>>
>
>
>=20
>



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