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Re: What's Up When Birds Sing?

Subject: Re: What's Up When Birds Sing?
From: Wild Sanctuary <>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:27:47 -0700
As for ecosemiotics, read Paul Shepard ("Nature & Madness," "The
Others: How Animals Made Us Human.")

Bernie

>--starting to sound sort of like semiotic thought or ecosemiotics... Sol
>Worth also wrote some interesting papers in an attempt to bridge some of
>these conceptual gaps between culture and nature...
>
>After doing a lot of research on related theories and thoughts, I also
>feel that systematic thought and communication theory though can be very
>much limited by the particular semantics of the contexual disciplines/
>perspectives we attempt to decsribe them with. Such is the problem with
>'learning theory' vs. 'communication theory'. I believe that each time
>we take a step back and consider a natural system from a more 'macro
>view',  we are getting closer to to finding the true answers to many of
>our questions; yet limited within the semantics/ language of a
>particular genre, we are perhaps just driving on theoretical ashphalt as
>opposed to walking through the theoretical forest and making systematic
>observations based on true consciousness...
>
>Jeff
>
>PS: Ok... no more coffee for me... back to lurking
>
>
>
>Wild Sanctuary wrote:
>
>>As we come to terms with how we in the West have described "nature"
>>sounds in our various forms of art, we often find a profound
>>contradiction between our intent as artists and what we produce which
>>is natuarlly a reflection of our culture and it's disconnection to
>>the natural world. It is my strong feeling, both as a professional
>>musican and a naturalist, that the music-or-nature ouvre, in
>>particular, is more emblematic of this break in the circuit, than any
>>other art form (with a few notable exceptions such as Schafer).
>>
>>So, herewith another view...which, by the way, is the subject of my
>>new book which should be published sometime late 2006. The article
>>was published first in Rothenberg's "Terra Nova" magazine (MIT Press).
>>
>>http://www.wildsanctuary.com/natmus.pdf
>>
>>Bernie
>>
>>
>>
>>>Congratulations you fortunate American people!  Those of you, that is, w=
ho
>>>can get to the Hemmerdinger Hall, 100 Washington Square East, NYC on
>>>Saturday evening (April 16, 4-7 pm).
>>>
>>>If one really could turn green with envy, I'd now be as bright as the ne=
w
>>>leaves on the Poinciana tree outside my study window.
>>>
>>>You will recall that on March 12 Doug (Von Gausig) congratulated Nature
>>>Recordists member Don Kroodsma on the Audubon article featuring him.  No=
w,
>>>free and open to the public, he will be part of, and I quote:
>>>
>>>     "... the first event in New York to bring scientists together with
>>>musicians and poets to explore how these different approaches to the wor=
ld
>>>have explored and made sense of bird song".
>>>
>>>David Rothenberg, composer, jazz clarinettist (and Professor of Philosop=
hy
>>>at the New Jersey institute of Technology), and Michael Pestel both have
>>>much experience of bird song, its musicality and of playing (music) with
>>>birds, to contribute to the evening.   Lang Elliott, valued contributor =
to
>>>Nat/Recs, Biology Professor Fredric Vencl (at SUNY Stont Brook) and Ofer
>>>Tchernichovski will be adding their erudite knowledge of bird song to th=
e
>>>proceedings.   Breyton Breytonbach and Alan Vardy provide expertise in t=
he
>>>poetry department.  While Eric Salzman - "once music critic for the New =
York
>>>Times, (and) now a composer ... and a contributing writer to Birding
>>>Magazine" - will, I assume, be competent to keep their collective feet o=
n
>>>the ground.
>>>
>>>What a feast in store.  No wonder I wish I could be there.
>>>
>>>Syd Curtis
>>>(in Brisbane, Australia)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>>A listening room is not nature."
>>>Klas Strandberg
>>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>=20=20
>>>
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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