thanks Bernie!
Wild Sanctuary wrote:
>As for ecosemiotics, read Paul Shepard ("Nature & Madness," "The
>Others: How Animals Made Us Human.")
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>Bernie
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>>--starting to sound sort of like semiotic thought or ecosemiotics... Sol
>>Worth also wrote some interesting papers in an attempt to bridge some of
>>these conceptual gaps between culture and nature...
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>>After doing a lot of research on related theories and thoughts, I also
>>feel that systematic thought and communication theory though can be very
>>much limited by the particular semantics of the contexual disciplines/
>>perspectives we attempt to decsribe them with. Such is the problem with
>>'learning theory' vs. 'communication theory'. I believe that each time
>>we take a step back and consider a natural system from a more 'macro
>>view', we are getting closer to to finding the true answers to many of
>>our questions; yet limited within the semantics/ language of a
>>particular genre, we are perhaps just driving on theoretical ashphalt as
>>opposed to walking through the theoretical forest and making systematic
>>observations based on true consciousness...
>>
>>Jeff
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>>PS: Ok... no more coffee for me... back to lurking
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>>Wild Sanctuary wrote:
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>>>As we come to terms with how we in the West have described "nature"
>>>sounds in our various forms of art, we often find a profound
>>>contradiction between our intent as artists and what we produce which
>>>is natuarlly a reflection of our culture and it's disconnection to
>>>the natural world. It is my strong feeling, both as a professional
>>>musican and a naturalist, that the music-or-nature ouvre, in
>>>particular, is more emblematic of this break in the circuit, than any
>>>other art form (with a few notable exceptions such as Schafer).
>>>
>>>So, herewith another view...which, by the way, is the subject of my
>>>new book which should be published sometime late 2006. The article
>>>was published first in Rothenberg's "Terra Nova" magazine (MIT Press).
>>>
>>>http://www.wildsanctuary.com/natmus.pdf
>>>
>>>Bernie
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>>>>Congratulations you fortunate American people! Those of you, that is, =
who
>>>>can get to the Hemmerdinger Hall, 100 Washington Square East, NYC on
>>>>Saturday evening (April 16, 4-7 pm).
>>>>
>>>>If one really could turn green with envy, I'd now be as bright as the n=
ew
>>>>leaves on the Poinciana tree outside my study window.
>>>>
>>>>You will recall that on March 12 Doug (Von Gausig) congratulated Nature
>>>>Recordists member Don Kroodsma on the Audubon article featuring him. N=
ow,
>>>>free and open to the public, he will be part of, and I quote:
>>>>
>>>> "... the first event in New York to bring scientists together with
>>>>musicians and poets to explore how these different approaches to the wo=
rld
>>>>have explored and made sense of bird song".
>>>>
>>>>David Rothenberg, composer, jazz clarinettist (and Professor of Philoso=
phy
>>>>at the New Jersey institute of Technology), and Michael Pestel both hav=
e
>>>>much experience of bird song, its musicality and of playing (music) wit=
h
>>>>birds, to contribute to the evening. Lang Elliott, valued contributor=
to
>>>>Nat/Recs, Biology Professor Fredric Vencl (at SUNY Stont Brook) and Ofe=
r
>>>>Tchernichovski will be adding their erudite knowledge of bird song to t=
he
>>>>proceedings. Breyton Breytonbach and Alan Vardy provide expertise in =
the
>>>>poetry department. While Eric Salzman - "once music critic for the New=
York
>>>>Times, (and) now a composer ... and a contributing writer to Birding
>>>>Magazine" - will, I assume, be competent to keep their collective feet =
on
>>>>the ground.
>>>>
>>>>What a feast in store. No wonder I wish I could be there.
>>>>
>>>>Syd Curtis
>>>>(in Brisbane, Australia)
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>>>>
>>>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>>>A listening room is not nature."
>>>>Klas Strandberg
>>>>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>A listening room is not nature."
>>Klas Strandberg
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>=20=20=20
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