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Re: Edirol R-4

Subject: Re: Edirol R-4
From: Mike Feldman <>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:07:03 -0600
Lang Elliott wrote:

> Fo everyone interested in the Edirol R-4 issue, here is an e-mail I just
> received from Doug Oade, the engineer extraordinaire at Oade Brothers:

Thanks for sharing this.  I see one bit of dissonance tho:

> The stock unit sounds like it uses the same chips used in in the R1 and
> similar caps resulting in performance not much better than a stock UA5,
> M Audio DUO,...
> ... An INA163 based mic preamp ( like the Grace V3, modified by Grace
> for higher gain) used with high output mics ... produces excellent result=
s.

The M-Audio Duo does in fact use INA163 chips for the mic preamp stage.
I don't know why Doug says the R1/R4 is not much better than the Duo.
On the other hand, I haven't done a head-to-head on the mic pre
stages.

And an INA163 can be used well or poorly.  The Duo uses an AC wallwart
and +/- 15 volt rails (if I remember my poking around correctly),
while the Edirol portables run on 2 AA cells for 2.7 volts total
(unless there's a DC-DC boost converter in there).

The R1 case opens pretty easily, but the mic and display sub assemblies
hide the analog part of the circuit board, so I can't easily report
on the chips used.

-- Mike


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