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RE: Re: stereo in a parabola

Subject: RE: Re: stereo in a parabola
From: "Kevin Colver" <>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:44:30 -0700
Despite the central high frequency "hole" in my setup, the effect was
nonetheless quite pleasing to listen to.  I doubt that it will be a
significant problem in most recording sessions.  To focus sharply on one
bird I will need to aim off axis slightly, then the bird will sound like
it is to the side a bit in the final take.  I think this will still give
a nice natural feeling effect so I'll give it a try with some field
recordings this spring.  The singing birds are starting to warm up a bit
here now.

I'd still like to hear if anyone has tried M/S in a parabola?


Kevin J. Colver
114 N. Clark Lane
Elk Ridge, UT  84651
801-423-1810


-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Michener  
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 7:11 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Re: stereo in a parabola

At 06:14 PM 3/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Further testing this afternoon confirms the central "hole."  The right
>focus is definitely to the right a bit and left off to the left.  This
>is on the setup with 2 mono mics spaced a bit to the side of middle but
>in the plane of focus.  I imagine the Telinga stereo doesn't have this
>problem does it?
>Kevin J. Colver

Kevin:

I am glad you and Walt are providing actual results to this discussion.
I 
certainly agree with all Walt's points about your rig.  I would move the

mics closer together until you have less "hole".  As I kept saying, with
a 
sharp-focus parabola it would be nice to have three or four mic 
channels.  Think analogy: film with only two grains, vs. film with four
or 
nine grains.

As for Rich's circles and flyby response, I never noticed that.  Far
right 
was NOT louder in my right mic, but about equal.  As the sound angle got

closer to the center there was little detectable increase until within 5
or 
8 degrees, then BIG increase in the contralateral mic, then both mics,
then 
the other mic, then fade out,

But remember my parabola that I did most of this with is 48" and has a
huge 
gain and directionality - so much so that if you didn't see the singer's

location, it could be a bear to aim.  Easy with a continuous sound -
just 
keep panning for max signal in the headphones.  With a slowly repeated, 
short sound, like an alarm "chip" every two seconds, it was maddening 
trying for best aim.  But for much of our uses it was "too good", too
much 
on axis gain, too directional.  Follow-focus with flying calling birds 
(e.g. Canada Goose stereo flyover) it was superb if you followed well.
The 
stereo reflects the woodland echo of the goose's call - the effect quite

thrilling.

my best regards,

Marty Michener
MIST Software Associates PO Box 269, Hollis, NH 03049

EnjoyBirds.com  - Software that migrates with you.
http://www.EnjoyBirds.com



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