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Re: bird song

Subject: Re: bird song
From: Walter Knapp <>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:26:07 -0500
Dan Dugan wrote:

> I hope someone has some figures on bird SPLs, that would be very 
> interesting. I can contribute two points: 1) birds are incredibly 
> efficient sound producers, and 2) a typical non-horn speaker is only 
> 5-10% efficient.

I think most animals are pretty efficient. They don't have unlimited 
energy to devote to it.

As I noted, frogs can be very loud. Reported levels for some have been 
in the 120 - 130 dB level, or higher. In fact there is a whole area of 
study that's investigating how they don't go deaf. Neat, doppler laser 
equipment that can measure the vibration of a spot on a frog from a 
distance.

Using my sound meter I've measured sound levels off squirrel treefrogs. 
At 3' a single squirrel treefrog can put out around 95 - 100 dBA using 
the fast response with hold. And squirrel treefrogs are not 
particularily loud, even in large groups. I've been meaning to measure 
some of the other species. It's tricky as they tend to start modifying 
their calls as you get close.

I do know I've been in frog sites where the entire chorus was loud 
enough to pass the threshold of pain. With the nearest frogs being more 
than 20' away. I only fairly recently got a good sound meter, so did not 
measure those.

What I've been looking for is a good horn pa that's got a decent 
frequency range and not too much of a battery hog. I still don't expect 
it to get me more than maybe 50 - 100 feet. My 2nd choice is to feed 
speakers off my car stereo, where I have more power available.

If I can get some cooperative birds, I'll try and get some readings with 
the sound meter. Probably be a while and very hard to get very close.

Walt




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