Pintail and SMS - a tiresome thread

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Subject: Pintail and SMS - a tiresome thread
From: Simon Mustoe <>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:51:09 +0000
Sorry, but the original posting was credited as "thanks, John Graff, Greg 
Howell and Frank O'Connor."

These guys contacted me directly. I have had not complaints from John, Greg and 

Can I suggest that others stop discussing this on birding-aus. In truth, this 
is no-one else's business but ours. However, the messaging didn't come from
birding-aus, so please refrain from making these assumptions as they are
incorrect. We're very happy that we've always credited people correctly and 
will continue to do so. It only takes a quick look at our history and you can 
see this.

If you have any problems, you can always contact me directly, which may be 
preferable as I doubt the rest of the group really want to be reading our rants.

Kind regards,

Simon Mustoe.

> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:23:51 +0800
> To: 
> From: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Pintail and SMS
> I phoned Mike (and Alan Collins in WA) while watching the bird and
> suggested that he make a posting which he did.
> I mentioned notifying SImon, but we both agreed that Simon gets the
> birding-aus messages, and so that it would not be any faster to
> notify Simon directly.
> As for accrediting the sighting, it is tricky. The original sighting
> should be accredited to John Graff and Greg Howell (as it will be in
> the WA Bird Notes). In fact it will be accredited to them et al. and
> include the date range. It is not possible to list every birder who saw it.
> My gut feeling says that if bird-o picked up the information from
> birding-aus, then it probably should be acknowledged that way, and
> putting a link to the archive message is probably the way to go. But
> the problem is that the birdo-o SMS goes out as soon as possible, and
> it can take some time for the message to get archived in birding-aus.
> So it can't be acknowledged in the SMS, only on the blog.  So I guess
> updates could be accredited in the SMS in this case to Frank O'Connor
> per Mike Carter (birding-aus) or something like that.
> It can't be too long though! I could imagine a sighting by X, Y and Z
> reported to BAWA Sightings (Alan Collins), passed on to me (either by
> email or by reading the sightings page), and then passed on by me to
> birding-aus and then picked up by bird-o. I hate to think what the
> accreditation might become if the full chain had to be acknowledged!!!
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