Pintail and SMS

To: Mike Carter <>
Subject: Pintail and SMS
From: Alan McBride <>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:19:41 +1000
Hi Mike,

Well, I'm happy to ask them to comment. Simon?

It may well be that they picked it up off Birding -Aus but I can't imagine that 
they wouldn't credit anyone if they knew. On the pages it mentions Frank 
O'Connor a lot with thanks to him so they may have credited it accordingly to 
Frank? The whole point as I understand it though is to get the information out, 
not deny 'credit' from anyone who should or shouldn't be credited. I'm not sure 
that the 'credit' is so important anyway. The requirement is to get information 
out; no one I know worries whether they get 'credit' for reporting something do 
they? Anyone??

I'm also on Birding-Aus and my phone SMS bleeped with the news before a message 
from Birding-Aus came through, (on the laptop, which co-incidentally was on my 
lap with the i-phone on the table), soon afterwards. (As Tony wasn't on 
Birding-Aus at the time that was mission accomplished anyway);-)

I think if you (or Russell/Birding-Aus or whoever) "wants crediting" (and do 
people really want crediting) then simply have a word with Simon Mustoe and I'm 
sure from my limited dealings with him (sending a story or two to Wildiaries) 
he'll be happy to provide appropriate credits. Part of the very best features I 
see on Bird-O are to link all relevant parties and make it one universal system 
with separate services such as SMS and NOT take anything away from individual 
web sites. Indeed it's the individual sites involvement which will make the 
whole of these sites better and more functional. Again, I'm happy to stand 
corrected or Simon can comment if he wants to clarify my limited understanding.

If I hadn't got the SMS and simply read it on Birding-Aus later I would have 
had no need to write to Birding-Aus to say well done, (as that is what it's 
there for anyway;-) ). Either way I would still have been able to tell Tony it 
was back;-)

Given I signed up for the SMS service and then was told to unsubscribe and I 
received this for nothing, I was most impressed;-)

I guess on the basis of this note I need to thank Ian May for seeing "hundreds 
of Princess Parrots" 100 km south of where Phil Gregory, Don Hadden and myself 
spent a week in June. Thanks Ian!

Very best wishes and thanks for your post too.


On 28/07/2010, at 19:57 , Mike Carter wrote:

Ah Alan, but did Bird-O tell you how they heard about it?
I'm interested to know because at least at one time they weren't in the habit 
of crediting their sources nor acknowledging them. What are the odds that it 
was my note on Birding-Aus? Information out is one thing. Information in quite 

Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136

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