Pintail and SMS

To: Chris Sanderson <>
Subject: Pintail and SMS
From: Laurie Knight <>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:39:33 +1000
Isn't the phone relay acknowledgement "Joe Bloggs per Jane Doe"?


On 28/07/2010, at 10:32 PM, Chris Sanderson wrote:

Hi Mike and Alan,

I can shed some light as I typically handle the SMS side of things for
Bird-O. Mike, I did find out about it from your email, but as you credited Frank for the sighting, it was Frank I credited on the website. Honestly I'm not really sure what the appropriate method is for crediting people is here, as I've already had people upset at me for putting their name against a sighting. I do know that in Britain they do not credit observers in their pager system, possibly to avoid a fuss if they get it wrong? If people contact me directly and ask to be credited I'll happily oblige, and if I'm reading a sighting from elsewhere, I'll try and credit the original observer
to the best of my knowledge.


On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Alan McBride <> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Well, I'm happy to ask them to comment. Simon?

It may well be that they picked it up off Birding -Aus but I can't imagine that they wouldn't credit anyone if they knew. On the pages it mentions
Frank O'Connor a lot with thanks to him so they may have credited it
accordingly to Frank? The whole point as I understand it though is to get the information out, not deny 'credit' from anyone who should or shouldn't be credited. I'm not sure that the 'credit' is so important anyway. The requirement is to get information out; no one I know worries whether they
get 'credit' for reporting something do they? Anyone??

I'm also on Birding-Aus and my phone SMS bleeped with the news before a message from Birding-Aus came through, (on the laptop, which co- incidentally was on my lap with the i-phone on the table), soon afterwards. (As Tony wasn't on Birding-Aus at the time that was mission accomplished anyway);-)

I think if you (or Russell/Birding-Aus or whoever) "wants crediting" (and do people really want crediting) then simply have a word with Simon Mustoe and I'm sure from my limited dealings with him (sending a story or two to Wildiaries) he'll be happy to provide appropriate credits. Part of the very best features I see on Bird-O are to link all relevant parties and make it
one universal system with separate services such as SMS and NOT take
anything away from individual web sites. Indeed it's the individual sites
involvement which will make the whole of these sites better and more
functional. Again, I'm happy to stand corrected or Simon can comment if he
wants to clarify my limited understanding.

If I hadn't got the SMS and simply read it on Birding-Aus later I would have had no need to write to Birding-Aus to say well done, (as that is what it's there for anyway;-) ). Either way I would still have been able to tell
Tony it was back;-)

Given I signed up for the SMS service and then was told to unsubscribe and
I received this for nothing, I was most impressed;-)

I guess on the basis of this note I need to thank Ian May for seeing
"hundreds of Princess Parrots" 100 km south of where Phil Gregory, Don
Hadden and myself spent a week in June. Thanks Ian!

Very best wishes and thanks for your post too.


On 28/07/2010, at 19:57 , Mike Carter wrote:

Ah Alan, but did Bird-O tell you how they heard about it?
I'm interested to know because at least at one time they weren't in the habit of crediting their sources nor acknowledging them. What are the odds
that it was my note on Birding-Aus? Information out is one thing.
Information in quite another.

Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136

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