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Black Noddy ethics

To: L&L Knight <>
Subject: Black Noddy ethics
From: Ian May <>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:54:40 +1000
g'Day all

The discussion about ticking birds from a photograph led me to ponder, how long will it be before technology integrates an image from binoculars, scope or camera with an electronic recognition program. Add radar signature and sound connected to a Telstra newG mobile phone with GPS and fast labor broadband and "bingo", us twitchers could be left out of the loop.
Regards



Ian May

St Helens, Tasmania 7216

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L&L Knight wrote:

If you have photographed a bird, then you have seen it. You can pick up things in photos that you don't in the field, and conversely, you can pick up things in the field that you don't in photos.

The military, geoscientists and natural resource managers etc are able to locate and identify targets/features of interest from aerial photographs. What is the difference to birdwatchers who identify birds from photographs they have taken. Where only brief glimpses are available, it may only be possible to positively identify a bird from a picture in hand.

As to the matter of "ethics", the case for claiming a tick when the bird is to the side/in the background [ie not at the "heart" / focal point of the photo] is not as clear cut as the case for claiming a tick when the bird is at the centre of attention.

Regards, Laurie.

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of David Stowe
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2007 9:46 PM
To: Birding-aus Aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Black Noddy ethics

Some of you may have read my recent posts about a trip to Michelmas
Cay last week and the fact that i didn't see any Black Noddy's.
Well I am just going through my photos in more detail and i have
found a Black Noddy in a photo!!
Does it count as a tick or not??
I know Bob Inglis has an opinion on this as he was in a similar
predicament recently whilst photographing Stints and finding a
Sanderling later (which was potentially a tick) in the background of
his photos. I have heard people's thoughts on that situation from
OZbirdpix but would be interested in what the Birding-Aus community
reckons?
I was admittedly taking alot of photos of the Noddy's in case i had
missed a Black one - there were only about a million to look at!!! So
it wasn't like I wasn't aware of the situation. I was indeed
specifically looking for them.
For those interested it was on one of the reef cruise tender boats
moored just off the Cay. This was also the reason i was photographing
the birds on the boat as it was hard to use bins from the front of a
tinny! (No i'm not any good on pelagic trips either!)
Interested to hear people's thoughts.

Cheers
Dave


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