The Magistrates comment Silvester being ‘home’ in NZ were curious. Sounds
like moves toward deportation are under way. The Wildlife officers didn’t
seem to expect that level of penalty. I thing that things are going to get
even messier for Silvester.
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, Ross Macfarlane (TPG) <>
wrote:
> Because he wanted to go home.
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-
> tailed-eagles-in-gi
> ppsland-jailed/10298426
>
> '
> Mr Silvester asked to address the magistrate and said: "[The] Wildlife
> [department] have lied, they told me it would only be a fine. I just want
> to
> put this behind me and go home."
>
> "You'll be back home in New Zealand in a month," the magistrate told
> Silvester.
> '
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of
> Martin
> Butterfield
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:44 PM
> To: Jeremy O'Wheel <>
> Cc: birding-aus NEW <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
>
> So why did the magistrate make the statement about Silvester soon being
> back
> in NZ?
>
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 15:25, Jeremy O'Wheel <> wrote:
>
> > You have to serve over 1 year in jail to be deported.
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 19:27 Kim Sterelny <>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Let's hope they are charged, and treated more seriously. It would be
> > > pretty appalling if the only person to face legal sanction was the
> > > one
> > who
> > > alerted the authorities (without insisting on immunity from
> > > prosecution first).
> > >
> > >
> > > And yes, it is most unlikely he would be deported for this alone,
> > > and given that he is probably the least culpable, I am fine with that.
> > >
> > > kim
> > >
> > >
> > > Kim Sterelny, School of Philosophy, Research School of the Social
> > > Sciences, Australian National University, Acton, 0200, ACT,
> > > Australia or
> > >
> > > 61-(0)2-6125-2886
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of
> > Ross
> > > Macfarlane (TPG) <>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 6:41 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> > >
> > > Sometimes it's worth reading the article.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles
> > -in-gi
> > > ABC.net.au: Page Not Found<
> > >
> > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles
> > -in-gi
> > > >
> > > www.abc.net.au
> > > Australia's leading source of information and entertainment
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ppsland-jailed/10298426
> > >
> > > "Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP)
> > > prosecutor Chrisanthi Paganis told the Sale Magistrates' Court that
> > > Silvester
> > alerted
> > > authorities to the deaths in May 2018, one month after he stopped
> > > working at the farm due to an argument with his boss, landowner John
> > > Auer.
> > >
> > > Silvester provided investigators with two diaries detailing the
> > > methods used and a hand-drawn map showing where the eagle carcasses
> > > were hidden and where the chemicals were stored.
> > >
> > > Silvester also named others involved.
> > >
> > > The prosecutor told the court other people were being investigated
> > > over
> > the
> > > killings but had not been charged."
> > >
> > > In other words, the person who's been convicted actually reported
> > > this matter to the authorities. Had he not done so it may never have
> > > come to light.
> > >
> > > Re deportation: as a country we could do with being rather less
> > reflexively
> > > punitive about shipping people off-shore at the first available
> > > opportunity, if I may say so.
> > >
> > > Ross Macfarlane
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of
> > > Philip Veerman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 4:52 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> > >
> > > It is great that this event has been taken up and prosecuted. So at
> > > least things have improved. As recently as the 1970s many eagles
> > > were shot and the remains would be tied up on fences along roads. In
> > > some grotesque display of bravado maybe or even more dumb, a weird
> > > idea that eagles would see these as a warning and vacate the area.
> > > Even under long and heavy such persecution the species remained in
> > > reasonably strong numbers overall. What would
> > also
> > > be interesting to know is whether this mass killing of eagles had
> > > any positive benefit whatever on lamb survival. I expect it had
> > > little if any benefit. But the question is worth investigating. I
> > > assume that the poisoned lambs were already dead...... To be honest
> > > I am surprised that one person presumably in a limited are could be
> > > so destructive of a species like
> > this
> > > that presumably lives at a low population density.
> > >
> > > Philip
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Birding-Aus On
> > > Behalf Of Ross Macfarlane (TPG)
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September, 2018 3:24 PM
> > > To: 'michael hunter';
> > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> > >
> > > There has actually been a fair bit of publicity about it, e.g. on
> > > the
> > ABC,
> > > Weekly Times and local papers, and various opinion pieces as well it:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/wedge-tailed-eagles-suspected-po
> > isoned
> > > -in-east-gippsland/9845124
> > > <
> > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/wedge-tailed-eagles-suspected-po
> > isoned-in-east-gippsland/9845124
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/news-story/40c7b8d80f3
> > 2ebc79
> > > deaef0b6db1a0f0?nk=f33c876b60bcf8a5b645918eda0f4c3d-1537852780
> > > <
> > https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/news-story/40c7b8d80f3
> > 2ebc79deaef0b6db1a0f0?nk=f33c876b60bcf8a5b645918eda0f4c3d-1537852780
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > https://theconversation.com/mass-slaughter-of-wedge-tailed-eagles-coul
> > d-have
> > > -australia-wide-consequences-98011
> > > <
> > https://theconversation.com/mass-slaughter-of-wedge-tailed-eagles-coul
> > d-have-australia-wide-consequences-98011
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/07/more-than-100-wedg
> > e-tail
> > > ed-eagles-found-dead-on-victorian-farm
> > > <
> > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/07/more-than-100-wedg
> > e-tailed-eagles-found-dead-on-victorian-farm
> > >
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of
> > > michael hunter
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 1:39 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> > >
> > > The Sale magistrate is to be very highly commended for jailing
> > > Murray
> > James
> > > Silvester for slaughtering Wedge-tailed Eagles. It is unlikely that
> > > Silvester will kill native birds again.
> > >
> > > As a criminal could he now be deported?
> > >
> > > How much publicity did the magistrates decision attract ? Apart
> > > from Birding-aus I neither saw nor heard anything about it in the
> > > National
> > media
> > > or elsewhere. From the Conservation view the jailing decision ought
> > > to be broadcast far and wide. Much more so than the prolonged
> > > outcry over culling six sharks in the Whitsundays. Wedgies are a
> > > much more visible and iconic native than Tiger Sharks.
> > >
> > > Like genital mutilation and other unsavoury practices a small number
> > > of immigrants bring to Australia, shooting or otherwise killing our
> > > native fauna warrants zero tolerance, in Public Opinion and the
> > > Courts. Not that Australian born fauna killers are guiltless.
> > > Publicising the penalties would help a lot to minimise the killing.
> > >
> > > Very Sincerely
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
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