You have to serve over 1 year in jail to be deported.
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 19:27 Kim Sterelny <> wrote:
> Let's hope they are charged, and treated more seriously. It would be
> pretty appalling if the only person to face legal sanction was the one who
> alerted the authorities (without insisting on immunity from prosecution
> first).
>
>
> And yes, it is most unlikely he would be deported for this alone, and
> given that he is probably the least culpable, I am fine with that.
>
> kim
>
>
> Kim Sterelny, School of Philosophy, Research School of the Social
> Sciences, Australian National University, Acton, 0200, ACT, Australia
> or
>
> 61-(0)2-6125-2886
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Ross
> Macfarlane (TPG) <>
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 6:41 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
>
> Sometimes it's worth reading the article.
>
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles-in-gi
> ABC.net.au: Page Not Found<
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles-in-gi
> >
> www.abc.net.au
> Australia's leading source of information and entertainment
>
>
>
> ppsland-jailed/10298426
>
> "Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP) prosecutor
> Chrisanthi Paganis told the Sale Magistrates' Court that Silvester alerted
> authorities to the deaths in May 2018, one month after he stopped working
> at
> the farm due to an argument with his boss, landowner John Auer.
>
> Silvester provided investigators with two diaries detailing the methods
> used
> and a hand-drawn map showing where the eagle carcasses were hidden and
> where
> the chemicals were stored.
>
> Silvester also named others involved.
>
> The prosecutor told the court other people were being investigated over the
> killings but had not been charged."
>
> In other words, the person who's been convicted actually reported this
> matter to the authorities. Had he not done so it may never have come to
> light.
>
> Re deportation: as a country we could do with being rather less reflexively
> punitive about shipping people off-shore at the first available
> opportunity,
> if I may say so.
>
> Ross Macfarlane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of
> Philip
> Veerman
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 4:52 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
>
> It is great that this event has been taken up and prosecuted. So at least
> things have improved. As recently as the 1970s many eagles were shot and
> the
> remains would be tied up on fences along roads. In some grotesque display
> of
> bravado maybe or even more dumb, a weird idea that eagles would see these
> as
> a warning and vacate the area. Even under long and heavy such persecution
> the species remained in reasonably strong numbers overall. What would also
> be interesting to know is whether this mass killing of eagles had any
> positive benefit whatever on lamb survival. I expect it had little if any
> benefit. But the question is worth investigating. I assume that the
> poisoned
> lambs were already dead...... To be honest I am surprised that one person
> presumably in a limited are could be so destructive of a species like this
> that presumably lives at a low population density.
>
> Philip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus On Behalf
> Of
> Ross Macfarlane (TPG)
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 September, 2018 3:24 PM
> To: 'michael hunter';
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
>
> There has actually been a fair bit of publicity about it, e.g. on the ABC,
> Weekly Times and local papers, and various opinion pieces as well it:
>
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/wedge-tailed-eagles-suspected-poisoned
> -in-east-gippsland/9845124
> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/wedge-tailed-eagles-suspected-poisoned-in-east-gippsland/9845124>
>
> https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/news-story/40c7b8d80f32ebc79
> deaef0b6db1a0f0?nk=f33c876b60bcf8a5b645918eda0f4c3d-1537852780
> <https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/news-story/40c7b8d80f32ebc79deaef0b6db1a0f0?nk=f33c876b60bcf8a5b645918eda0f4c3d-1537852780>
>
> https://theconversation.com/mass-slaughter-of-wedge-tailed-eagles-could-have
> -australia-wide-consequences-98011
> <https://theconversation.com/mass-slaughter-of-wedge-tailed-eagles-could-have-australia-wide-consequences-98011>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/07/more-than-100-wedge-tail
> ed-eagles-found-dead-on-victorian-farm
> <https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/07/more-than-100-wedge-tailed-eagles-found-dead-on-victorian-farm>
> etc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of
> michael
> hunter
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 1:39 PM
> To:
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
>
> The Sale magistrate is to be very highly commended for jailing Murray James
> Silvester for slaughtering Wedge-tailed Eagles. It is unlikely that
> Silvester will kill native birds again.
>
> As a criminal could he now be deported?
>
> How much publicity did the magistrates decision attract ? Apart from
> Birding-aus I neither saw nor heard anything about it in the National media
> or elsewhere. From the Conservation view the jailing decision ought to be
> broadcast far and wide. Much more so than the prolonged outcry over
> culling
> six sharks in the Whitsundays. Wedgies are a much more visible and iconic
> native than Tiger Sharks.
>
> Like genital mutilation and other unsavoury practices a small number of
> immigrants bring to Australia, shooting or otherwise killing our native
> fauna warrants zero tolerance, in Public Opinion and the Courts. Not that
> Australian born fauna killers are guiltless. Publicising the penalties
> would
> help a lot to minimise the killing.
>
> Very Sincerely
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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