So why did the magistrate make the statement about Silvester soon being
back in NZ?
http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 15:25, Jeremy O'Wheel <> wrote:
> You have to serve over 1 year in jail to be deported.
>
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 19:27 Kim Sterelny <> wrote:
>
> > Let's hope they are charged, and treated more seriously. It would be
> > pretty appalling if the only person to face legal sanction was the one
> who
> > alerted the authorities (without insisting on immunity from prosecution
> > first).
> >
> >
> > And yes, it is most unlikely he would be deported for this alone, and
> > given that he is probably the least culpable, I am fine with that.
> >
> > kim
> >
> >
> > Kim Sterelny, School of Philosophy, Research School of the Social
> > Sciences, Australian National University, Acton, 0200, ACT, Australia
> > or
> >
> > 61-(0)2-6125-2886
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of
> Ross
> > Macfarlane (TPG) <>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 6:41 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> >
> > Sometimes it's worth reading the article.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles-in-gi
> > ABC.net.au: Page Not Found<
> >
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles-in-gi
> > >
> > www.abc.net.au
> > Australia's leading source of information and entertainment
> >
> >
> >
> > ppsland-jailed/10298426
> >
> > "Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP) prosecutor
> > Chrisanthi Paganis told the Sale Magistrates' Court that Silvester
> alerted
> > authorities to the deaths in May 2018, one month after he stopped working
> > at
> > the farm due to an argument with his boss, landowner John Auer.
> >
> > Silvester provided investigators with two diaries detailing the methods
> > used
> > and a hand-drawn map showing where the eagle carcasses were hidden and
> > where
> > the chemicals were stored.
> >
> > Silvester also named others involved.
> >
> > The prosecutor told the court other people were being investigated over
> the
> > killings but had not been charged."
> >
> > In other words, the person who's been convicted actually reported this
> > matter to the authorities. Had he not done so it may never have come to
> > light.
> >
> > Re deportation: as a country we could do with being rather less
> reflexively
> > punitive about shipping people off-shore at the first available
> > opportunity,
> > if I may say so.
> >
> > Ross Macfarlane
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of
> > Philip
> > Veerman
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 4:52 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> >
> > It is great that this event has been taken up and prosecuted. So at least
> > things have improved. As recently as the 1970s many eagles were shot and
> > the
> > remains would be tied up on fences along roads. In some grotesque display
> > of
> > bravado maybe or even more dumb, a weird idea that eagles would see these
> > as
> > a warning and vacate the area. Even under long and heavy such persecution
> > the species remained in reasonably strong numbers overall. What would
> also
> > be interesting to know is whether this mass killing of eagles had any
> > positive benefit whatever on lamb survival. I expect it had little if any
> > benefit. But the question is worth investigating. I assume that the
> > poisoned
> > lambs were already dead...... To be honest I am surprised that one person
> > presumably in a limited are could be so destructive of a species like
> this
> > that presumably lives at a low population density.
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus On Behalf
> > Of
> > Ross Macfarlane (TPG)
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September, 2018 3:24 PM
> > To: 'michael hunter';
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> >
> > There has actually been a fair bit of publicity about it, e.g. on the
> ABC,
> > Weekly Times and local papers, and various opinion pieces as well it:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/wedge-tailed-eagles-suspected-poisoned
> > -in-east-gippsland/9845124
> > <
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/wedge-tailed-eagles-suspected-poisoned-in-east-gippsland/9845124
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/news-story/40c7b8d80f32ebc79
> > deaef0b6db1a0f0?nk=f33c876b60bcf8a5b645918eda0f4c3d-1537852780
> > <
> https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/news-story/40c7b8d80f32ebc79deaef0b6db1a0f0?nk=f33c876b60bcf8a5b645918eda0f4c3d-1537852780
> >
> >
> >
> https://theconversation.com/mass-slaughter-of-wedge-tailed-eagles-could-have
> > -australia-wide-consequences-98011
> > <
> https://theconversation.com/mass-slaughter-of-wedge-tailed-eagles-could-have-australia-wide-consequences-98011
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/07/more-than-100-wedge-tail
> > ed-eagles-found-dead-on-victorian-farm
> > <
> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/07/more-than-100-wedge-tailed-eagles-found-dead-on-victorian-farm
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of
> > michael
> > hunter
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 1:39 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] wedgetail jail and fine
> >
> > The Sale magistrate is to be very highly commended for jailing Murray
> James
> > Silvester for slaughtering Wedge-tailed Eagles. It is unlikely that
> > Silvester will kill native birds again.
> >
> > As a criminal could he now be deported?
> >
> > How much publicity did the magistrates decision attract ? Apart from
> > Birding-aus I neither saw nor heard anything about it in the National
> media
> > or elsewhere. From the Conservation view the jailing decision ought to be
> > broadcast far and wide. Much more so than the prolonged outcry over
> > culling
> > six sharks in the Whitsundays. Wedgies are a much more visible and iconic
> > native than Tiger Sharks.
> >
> > Like genital mutilation and other unsavoury practices a small number of
> > immigrants bring to Australia, shooting or otherwise killing our native
> > fauna warrants zero tolerance, in Public Opinion and the Courts. Not that
> > Australian born fauna killers are guiltless. Publicising the penalties
> > would
> > help a lot to minimise the killing.
> >
> > Very Sincerely
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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