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To: Laurie Knight <>
Subject: names
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:16:42 +0000
But only if it gets split, as the (current) species occurs in Asia as
well.....

On 28 January 2017 at 08:04, Laurie Knight <> wrote:

> Call it the Australasian Stork and I’m sure the Jabiru faction will accept
> the stork nomenclature.  It is the only stork species in Australia and
> would follow the precedent set by the Australasian Bittern ...
>
> Laurie.
>
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:25 am, Philip Veerman <> wrote:
>
> > Provided it would be Djinki Honeyeater, rather than just Djinki.
> Otherwise
> > there would be a name absurdly sticking out as having no connection with
> > anything else, for a bird that is barely distinctive and this makes an
> index
> > in a book look silly. Names can be distinctive if the animal they are
> > describing is distinctive, thus we can get by with Koala rather than
> Koala
> > Wombat and Panda rather than Panda Bear.
> >
> > This discussion has been turned upside down, going from "Jabiru". Which
> has
> > been shown to be a silly name for our bird as it is quite different from
> a
> > Jabiru and does not have the swollen neck that the Jabiru does have. Some
> > have even suggested that the word Jabiru has historic precedence over
> > Black-necked Stork. I doubt that. Surely the group name Stork is much
> older
> > (and traditional) than is Jabiru. The Black-necked or even Satin are
> simply
> > adjectival descriptors to specify which species of stork. How about we
> > reverse it and call it a Uribaj. The argument for retaining Jabiru for
> our
> > bird (apart from that it is an easy word that sounds nice, something that
> > will jab at a fish that sounds a little be kangarooish) is as pointless
> as
> > those who will call the wombat a badger.
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus  On
> Behalf Of
> > casliber0134
> > Sent: Friday, 27 January, 2017 7:50 AM
> > To: Birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] names
> >
> > I must say I have no problem with a local indigenous name (like Djagana)
> > becoming generalised as other local names have become general Australian
> or
> > wolrd wide words.
> >
> > I like *djinki *for Melithreptus chloropsis rather than Gilbert's
> > honeyeater or western white-naped honeyeater...
> >
> > In the 80s we saw all the wrens become fairywrens and (Turnix) "quails"
> > become buttonquails so some name changes take hold pretty seamlessly.
> >
> > Cas
> >
> >
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