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Re Banding trip to Buddigower Nature Reserve take 2

To: Dr Mark Carey <>, geoff jones barra images <>, "" <>
Subject: Re Banding trip to Buddigower Nature Reserve take 2
From: martin cachard <>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:06:54 +1100
this is a very interesting thread & I've learnt so much already just from a 
couple of posts, so thank you so far for these  insights into banding.
 
one species I believe which could reveal some interesting findings could be the 
local breeding canescens race of Black-winged Monarch,  a species I've been 
doing much fieldwork on in recent years...
one perplexing question for me is where do they winter when not in Australia??
of course some banding would also need to be done in PNG or wherever else we 
believe this race may winter...
I truly wonder???
 
any ideas on doing such a project anyone??
 
cheers, 
martin cachard,
cairns
 
 

 
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> To: ; 
> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:28:39 +1100
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Re Banding trip to Buddigower Nature Reserve take 2
> 
> Hi all, 
>  
> 
> 
> A good article that explains quite nicely why we should
> continue banding and why banding schemes are important!
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.britishbirds.co.uk/article/bird-ringing-still-necessary/
> 
> 
>  Cheers, Mark
> 
> 
>  
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:50:22 +1100
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Re Banding trip to Buddigower Nature Reserve take 2
> > 
> > In response to Harveys reply I need to apologise to Harvey about leaving the
> > nets unattended as he has now said that the nets were not opened before they
> > went off and set up camp and I have already sent a personal email to Harvey
> > on that subject. But if you had read Harvey's Blog here is an excerpt from
> > it;  " When we arrived at Buddigower, Karen and I set to to get a few nets
> > up before dusk, in the same area we had banded those four years previously,
> > then went about the business of setting up camp"  This quote is how I came
> > to that conclusion, however it still does not change my point of view about
> > banding birds in a local areas, again I ask for what purpose is it done? 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > My personal thoughts are that a bird count done regularly by a local bird
> > club will give you a considerable amount of information without putting the
> > birds thru the trauma of being banded. Last Saturday afternoon I personally
> > observed Sharp-tailed Sandpipers that had recently arrived and were
> > vigorously feeding after their annual migration to our shores. They were
> > feeding in one of the ponds near the Burrow Pits at the Western Treatment
> > Plant and as they struggled to raise their legs in the soft mud I couldn't
> > help but think that if they had large leg flags on their feet and that if
> > birds of prey were around, which is quite common at this site, it could be
> > the difference between life and death for those birds.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Most people now know that the population of waders are dramatically dropping
> > as many local groups throughout Australian do numerous wader counts and that
> > information is passed on to the appropriate people and/or organizations.
> > 
> > So why should we continue to Net, Traumatize and in some cases kill or maim
> > birds, all for so-called research?  I for one think not!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Kindest Regards
> > 
> > Geoff Jones
> > 
> > Barra Imaging
> > 
> > 
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