I recently won a copy of the PC digital version of Pizzey and Knight and I
installed it on my computer but now my computer is running slow on a lot of
things and also wont google a lot of stuff. Its too much of a coincidence
that things that worked before I put this thing on my computer now don't
work. Does anyone know of this problem? How do I fix it? Ive tried finding
how to get the thing back off my computer but cant find how to.
david Richardson
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Carl Clifford <>wrote:
> Russ,
>
> I was in the UK recently and I noticed some birders carting around both
> book and iPod/Pad. I did the same, taking my iPod Touch, on which I had
> NatureGuides' "Birds of Britain & Ireland". I also took "The Crossley ID
> Guide". I mostly used the Crossley guide, using the iPad for back-up and
> calls.
>
> One disadvantage I found with the app, is that you can't easily scribble
> notes on the pages.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> > On 28 Apr 2014, at 14:50, Russell Woodford <> wrote:
> >
> > Hi David
> > My suggestion is to ask another birder to show you the app on their
> phone next time you are at a twitch or birding in a group. They should be
> able to give you an idea of what all the fuss is about!
> >
> > I find both Morecombe and Pizzey apps very useful for checking calls,
> and for comparing details on birds in the field. Eg yesterday I was seeing
> a lot of lorikeets and needed to remind myself of the differences in tail
> shape and rump colour. The presence of several hybrids made it confusing,
> but having this info in my hand while walking around at least made it
> possible to speculate on the parentage of most of them!
> >
> > Russell
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 26 Apr 2014, at 6:05 pm, David Richardson <>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thank-you everybody. If I hadn't won the free cd of it I think I would
> >> carry on with my books and my calls on ipod. Infact, I can read my field
> >> guides in bed which I cant do with the computer. And a book has lots of
> >> birds on each page and following pages so I find it easier to look for a
> >> bird Im trying to identify.I guess Im not used to how computers work
> and am
> >> more comfortable with a familiar field guide. I thought I was going high
> >> tech when I bought an ipod 7 years ago and my neice put my BOCA calls
> on it.
> >>
> >> Thanks'
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:46 PM, storm <>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It depends on what kind of phone you buy.
> >>>
> >>> If you buy an iphone, no (assuming you do not have a apple mac at
> home).
> >>> If you have a PC and buy an android then maybe.
> >>>
> >>> On the computer you have at the moment you can have the internet, the
> >>> email and maybe an excel spreadsheet or word document all open. You can
> >>> move between the programs with the mouse.
> >>>
> >>> On a phone you pretty much need to close one program before you open
> >>> another.
> >>>
> >>> That you can hear bird calls when you doing other things means you have
> >>> the Pizzey guide open. If you close the program, then the sounds should
> >>> stop. You might need to eject the cd from the computer.
> >>>
> >>> good luck
> >>>
> >>> storm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 26 April 2014 17:27, David Richardson <
> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I don't understand a lot of that. I can only do one thing at a time
> on my
> >>>> computer. I turn it on and click on the e and it goes to google. From
> >>>> there
> >>>> I use gmail and can get to birdline and facebook and google things.
> That's
> >>>> as far as my computer knowledge goes. I put the cd for pizzey and
> knight
> >>>> into the slot on the computer and I now have a picture of a rosella
> next
> >>>> to
> >>>> the e that I can click on and it shows the pizzey and knight
> electronic
> >>>> version. I had to turn the speakers off because I keep hearing bird
> >>>> calls.Will the "PC "pizzey and knight I have work on an iphone or
> >>>> whatever
> >>>> they are if I get one? Or is it only for the big computer at home
> and I
> >>>> will have to buy another one to use on a phone?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> david Richardson
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, David Adams <>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> PS I don't know what "Android "is apart from in sci-fi movies. Im
> not
> >>>>>> being silly, I genuinely don't understand the differences.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fair enough. There's now to summarize a big subject like this one
> >>>> without
> >>>>> skipping something important or saying things that while
> approximately
> >>>> true
> >>>>> aren't complete. Even still, I can offer you a sketch that might
> help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Android and iOS are the two dominant operating systems out there for
> >>>> smart
> >>>>> phones and tablets. For an end user, they're more the same than
> >>>> different.
> >>>>> Which one is better? Yes ;-) They have fans and detractors on both
> >>>> sides,
> >>>>> such is how it goes. Both are geared towards small screens,
> >>>> conservation of
> >>>>> battery life, and nearly instantaneous startup. If you know how to
> use
> >>>> one,
> >>>>> you could easily figure out the other. Apps on Android and iOS often
> >>>> look
> >>>>> and behave very nearly identically. They are both very different from
> >>>>> desktop computers of whatever sort you might be using now. Instead
> of a
> >>>>> mouse and keyboard and apps in different windows, you generally use
> one
> >>>> app
> >>>>> at a time on a small screen using your fingers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Android is developed by Google and then more-or-less given away to
> phone
> >>>>> makers to include on their handsets. The dominant Android smartphone
> >>>> maker
> >>>>> is Samsung...but there are dozens of others.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> iOS is developed by Apple and used exclusively on their hardware:
> >>>> iPhone,
> >>>>> iPod Touch (iPhone without a phone), and iPad.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Apple and Samsung have been in a court battle for years that you may
> >>>> have
> >>>>> seen in the headlines. It's pretty much about Apple suing Google by
> >>>> proxy
> >>>>> for cloning the iPhone. None of that matters much to us as users.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can buy a cheap Android phone at Woolies or Coles for $40-80 on
> sale
> >>>>> but it probably won't have the memory to run the Pizzey app...or most
> >>>> any
> >>>>> serious birding app. Apple doesn't make low-end devices but, in many
> >>>>> markets, completely owns the high-end. (High end laptops? They own
> it.
> >>>> High
> >>>>> end phones? They share it.) If you're in the price range of Apple's
> >>>>> products, their kit is competitively priced with comparable gear. If
> you
> >>>>> want something cheaper, they just don't do that. I've got a couple of
> >>>>> Android phones (love them), an old iPod Touch (works great, even
> years
> >>>>> later), and the new iPad Mini. I have to say, the Mini is the
> greatest
> >>>>> gadget in the history of gadgets, so far as I can tell. With a sturdy
> >>>> case,
> >>>>> it can go in my bag and I've got thousands of pages of birding info,
> >>>> sounds
> >>>>> and pictures from around the world. Magic. Oh, none of these devices
> are
> >>>>> easy to read in bright light. So, books and pads of paper still have
> >>>> their
> >>>>> place, to be sure. (I prefer paper guides for areas I don't know as I
> >>>> flip
> >>>>> through the pages a lot.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To buy apps for either platform, you go through a store. In the case
> of
> >>>>> iOS, it's Apple's iTunes App Store. For Android, you've got choices.
> The
> >>>>> biggest and most trusted is Google's Play store. Many apps are free.
> >>>> When
> >>>>> you buy an app, it's usually licensed for one account on multiple
> >>>> devices.
> >>>>> So, if you have a tablet and a phone you can often buy one copy of
> the
> >>>> app
> >>>>> and legally use it on your two devices. With Apple, the license is
> >>>> always
> >>>>> for 5 devices, so far as I know. For Android, it depends a bit. If
> you
> >>>> buy
> >>>>> an Android version you don't get a license for iOS or the other way
> >>>> around.
> >>>>> Just like buying Office for Windows doesn't let you run Office for
> Mac.
> >>>>> Different OS, different license. And, yes, Microsoft does make a
> phone
> >>>>> operating system and just finished buying Nokia something like
> >>>> yesterday.
> >>>>> Windows Phone isn't Windows, is getting increasingly positive
> >>>> reviews...and
> >>>>> has a trivial market share for now. So, you don't see so many apps
> for
> >>>>> that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Colin R asked: "why is it cheaper for androids?"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Probably because Android users are, as a market, far, far, far less
> >>>>> inclined to spend money on apps. I assume that Guy Gibbons is
> >>>> attempting to
> >>>>> get the best price he can for his efforts, and fair enough. Also, if
> the
> >>>>> Android version is licensed for two devices and the iOS one for
> >>>> five...some
> >>>>> people will find it cheaper on iOS. Birding apps as a category are
> some
> >>>> of
> >>>>> the more expensive apps I've seen on either platform.
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