Hi David
My suggestion is to ask another birder to show you the app on their phone next
time you are at a twitch or birding in a group. They should be able to give you
an idea of what all the fuss is about!
I find both Morecombe and Pizzey apps very useful for checking calls, and for
comparing details on birds in the field. Eg yesterday I was seeing a lot of
lorikeets and needed to remind myself of the differences in tail shape and rump
colour. The presence of several hybrids made it confusing, but having this info
in my hand while walking around at least made it possible to speculate on the
parentage of most of them!
Russell
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> On 26 Apr 2014, at 6:05 pm, David Richardson <>
> wrote:
>
> Thank-you everybody. If I hadn't won the free cd of it I think I would
> carry on with my books and my calls on ipod. Infact, I can read my field
> guides in bed which I cant do with the computer. And a book has lots of
> birds on each page and following pages so I find it easier to look for a
> bird Im trying to identify.I guess Im not used to how computers work and am
> more comfortable with a familiar field guide. I thought I was going high
> tech when I bought an ipod 7 years ago and my neice put my BOCA calls on it.
>
> Thanks'
> David
>
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:46 PM, storm <> wrote:
>>
>> It depends on what kind of phone you buy.
>>
>> If you buy an iphone, no (assuming you do not have a apple mac at home).
>> If you have a PC and buy an android then maybe.
>>
>> On the computer you have at the moment you can have the internet, the
>> email and maybe an excel spreadsheet or word document all open. You can
>> move between the programs with the mouse.
>>
>> On a phone you pretty much need to close one program before you open
>> another.
>>
>> That you can hear bird calls when you doing other things means you have
>> the Pizzey guide open. If you close the program, then the sounds should
>> stop. You might need to eject the cd from the computer.
>>
>> good luck
>>
>> storm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 April 2014 17:27, David Richardson <>wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand a lot of that. I can only do one thing at a time on my
>>> computer. I turn it on and click on the e and it goes to google. From
>>> there
>>> I use gmail and can get to birdline and facebook and google things. That's
>>> as far as my computer knowledge goes. I put the cd for pizzey and knight
>>> into the slot on the computer and I now have a picture of a rosella next
>>> to
>>> the e that I can click on and it shows the pizzey and knight electronic
>>> version. I had to turn the speakers off because I keep hearing bird
>>> calls.Will the "PC "pizzey and knight I have work on an iphone or
>>> whatever
>>> they are if I get one? Or is it only for the big computer at home and I
>>> will have to buy another one to use on a phone?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> david Richardson
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, David Adams <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> PS I don't know what "Android "is apart from in sci-fi movies. Im not
>>>>> being silly, I genuinely don't understand the differences.
>>>>
>>>> Fair enough. There's now to summarize a big subject like this one
>>> without
>>>> skipping something important or saying things that while approximately
>>> true
>>>> aren't complete. Even still, I can offer you a sketch that might help.
>>>>
>>>> Android and iOS are the two dominant operating systems out there for
>>> smart
>>>> phones and tablets. For an end user, they're more the same than
>>> different.
>>>> Which one is better? Yes ;-) They have fans and detractors on both
>>> sides,
>>>> such is how it goes. Both are geared towards small screens,
>>> conservation of
>>>> battery life, and nearly instantaneous startup. If you know how to use
>>> one,
>>>> you could easily figure out the other. Apps on Android and iOS often
>>> look
>>>> and behave very nearly identically. They are both very different from
>>>> desktop computers of whatever sort you might be using now. Instead of a
>>>> mouse and keyboard and apps in different windows, you generally use one
>>> app
>>>> at a time on a small screen using your fingers.
>>>>
>>>> Android is developed by Google and then more-or-less given away to phone
>>>> makers to include on their handsets. The dominant Android smartphone
>>> maker
>>>> is Samsung...but there are dozens of others.
>>>>
>>>> iOS is developed by Apple and used exclusively on their hardware:
>>> iPhone,
>>>> iPod Touch (iPhone without a phone), and iPad.
>>>>
>>>> Apple and Samsung have been in a court battle for years that you may
>>> have
>>>> seen in the headlines. It's pretty much about Apple suing Google by
>>> proxy
>>>> for cloning the iPhone. None of that matters much to us as users.
>>>>
>>>> You can buy a cheap Android phone at Woolies or Coles for $40-80 on sale
>>>> but it probably won't have the memory to run the Pizzey app...or most
>>> any
>>>> serious birding app. Apple doesn't make low-end devices but, in many
>>>> markets, completely owns the high-end. (High end laptops? They own it.
>>> High
>>>> end phones? They share it.) If you're in the price range of Apple's
>>>> products, their kit is competitively priced with comparable gear. If you
>>>> want something cheaper, they just don't do that. I've got a couple of
>>>> Android phones (love them), an old iPod Touch (works great, even years
>>>> later), and the new iPad Mini. I have to say, the Mini is the greatest
>>>> gadget in the history of gadgets, so far as I can tell. With a sturdy
>>> case,
>>>> it can go in my bag and I've got thousands of pages of birding info,
>>> sounds
>>>> and pictures from around the world. Magic. Oh, none of these devices are
>>>> easy to read in bright light. So, books and pads of paper still have
>>> their
>>>> place, to be sure. (I prefer paper guides for areas I don't know as I
>>> flip
>>>> through the pages a lot.)
>>>>
>>>> To buy apps for either platform, you go through a store. In the case of
>>>> iOS, it's Apple's iTunes App Store. For Android, you've got choices. The
>>>> biggest and most trusted is Google's Play store. Many apps are free.
>>> When
>>>> you buy an app, it's usually licensed for one account on multiple
>>> devices.
>>>> So, if you have a tablet and a phone you can often buy one copy of the
>>> app
>>>> and legally use it on your two devices. With Apple, the license is
>>> always
>>>> for 5 devices, so far as I know. For Android, it depends a bit. If you
>>> buy
>>>> an Android version you don't get a license for iOS or the other way
>>> around.
>>>> Just like buying Office for Windows doesn't let you run Office for Mac.
>>>> Different OS, different license. And, yes, Microsoft does make a phone
>>>> operating system and just finished buying Nokia something like
>>> yesterday.
>>>> Windows Phone isn't Windows, is getting increasingly positive
>>> reviews...and
>>>> has a trivial market share for now. So, you don't see so many apps for
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Colin R asked: "why is it cheaper for androids?"
>>>>
>>>> Probably because Android users are, as a market, far, far, far less
>>>> inclined to spend money on apps. I assume that Guy Gibbons is
>>> attempting to
>>>> get the best price he can for his efforts, and fair enough. Also, if the
>>>> Android version is licensed for two devices and the iOS one for
>>> five...some
>>>> people will find it cheaper on iOS. Birding apps as a category are some
>>> of
>>>> the more expensive apps I've seen on either platform.
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