I am such a beginner in this world of birds ...
but I love them. And I'm very hard on myself at gaining a tick.
I've been 'watching' now since Feb 2000 and I've only managed 402 birds.
But I'm stoked at that.
I love this mailing list ... I read everything, even though I understand little
when it comes to genetics and the like. Actually, I understand less than little.
But still I read in the hope that something sinks in.
I love it when people post there reports.
I learn so much from their blogs.
And as I'm an oldie .. and get to travel a bit now and then,
I so rely on people posting trip reports.
Please, keep them coming. I read them all.
Jude
-----Original Message-----
From: david taylor <>
To: Birding-Aus aus <>
Sent: Mon, Apr 15, 2013 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mundane & useless threads
> Paul Dodd wrote "In fact, I was criticised for posting trip reports
recently too"
If people like Paul Dodd and others stop posting trip reports and useful
commentary on their birding adventures Birding-aus really wont be worth
subscribing to! How anyone could be critical of Paul ( and others) generous
details on their trips is hard to fathom!
David Taylor
On 15/04/2013, at 8:20 AM, Paul Dodd wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I thought I'd stay out of this conversation thread as I can't really abide
another discussion on capitalisation and grammar - HOWEVER, when the
conversation turned to bullying I felt that I had to participate.
>
> I have seen many postings over the years that I think are, at the very least,
rude - if not stepping over the line towards bullying - I won't give the
precise
examples here but they invariably occur around two topics - requests for
assistance with ID, and requests for information/assistance regarding birding
and birding locations, and generally these postings are from relative newcomers
to the list. Oftentimes the replies are helpful and encouraging, but from
time-to-time the replies are hostile. Replies to requests for ID suggesting
that
people have better things to do than substitute for field guides, for example.
>
> I see any forum (and birding-aus is a forum) as a collaborative experience -
where people should be able to post a request, or post a reply, without having
any fear of being attacked. To be honest, I have tended to adopt the principle
that I will post trip reports and other pieces of information, but not engage
in
the conversations because I don't want the grief. In fact, I was criticised for
posting trip reports recently too, which makes me think that maybe I'll stop
doing that too. I should point out that in my experience, much of the bullying
and criticism is offline - which I find worrying as it is covert, and we'll
never know the extent of it.
>
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
>
On Behalf Of Robert Inglis
> Sent: Sunday, 14 April 2013 9:37 PM
> To: Birding-Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mundane & useless threads
>
> Philip, (of Philip, Kylie, Joshua, Noah) if you feel I have bullied you in
> any
way and particularly by responding to your previous posting (which I believe
was
to ask for birding advice) by correcting your spelling and bird names please
accept this public apology.
> I must admit I am completely unaware of how that could have happened and, if
it did, I am truly sorry.
>
> There certainly is activity on BirdingAus from time to time which could
> easily
be construed as “bullying” and I have sometimes felt some of it was directed at
me.
> A lot of the threads on BirdingAus could easily be classified as “mundane &
useless” depending on your point of view but that is not a characteristic
exclusive to BirdingAus; it simply reflects the society we live in.
>
> Forums such as BirdingAus should be places where opinions are freely
> expressed
and argued but there is never any place for abuse and bullying.
>
> Bob Inglis
> Sandstone Point
> Qld
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