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Mundane & useless threads

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Subject: Mundane & useless threads
From: david taylor <>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:06:50 +1000
>   Paul Dodd wrote   "In fact, I was criticised for posting trip reports 
> recently too"


If people like Paul Dodd and others stop posting trip reports and useful 
commentary on their birding adventures Birding-aus really wont be worth 
subscribing to!   How anyone could be critical of Paul ( and others) generous 
details on their trips is hard to fathom!

David Taylor



On 15/04/2013, at 8:20 AM, Paul Dodd wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I thought I'd stay out of this conversation thread as I can't really abide 
> another discussion on capitalisation and grammar - HOWEVER, when the 
> conversation turned to bullying I felt that I had to participate.
> 
> I have seen many postings over the years that I think are, at the very least, 
> rude - if not stepping over the line towards bullying - I won't give the 
> precise examples here but they invariably occur around two topics - requests 
> for assistance with ID, and requests for information/assistance regarding 
> birding and birding locations, and generally these postings are from relative 
> newcomers to the list. Oftentimes the replies are helpful and encouraging, 
> but from time-to-time the replies are hostile. Replies to requests for ID 
> suggesting that people have better things to do than substitute for field 
> guides, for example.
> 
> I see any forum (and birding-aus is a forum) as a collaborative experience - 
> where people should be able to post a request, or post a reply, without 
> having any fear of being attacked. To be honest, I have tended to adopt the 
> principle that I will post trip reports and other pieces of information, but 
> not engage in the conversations because I don't want the grief. In fact, I 
> was criticised for posting trip reports recently too, which makes me think 
> that maybe I'll stop doing that too. I should point out that in my 
> experience, much of the bullying and criticism is offline - which I find 
> worrying as it is covert, and we'll never know the extent of it.
> 
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  
>  On Behalf Of Robert Inglis
> Sent: Sunday, 14 April 2013 9:37 PM
> To: Birding-Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mundane & useless threads
> 
> Philip, (of Philip, Kylie, Joshua, Noah) if you feel I have bullied you in 
> any way and particularly by responding to your previous posting (which I 
> believe was to ask for birding advice) by correcting your spelling and bird 
> names please accept this public apology.
> I must admit I am completely unaware of how that could have happened and, if 
> it did, I am truly sorry. 
> 
> There certainly is activity on BirdingAus from time to time which could 
> easily be construed as “bullying” and I have sometimes felt some of it was 
> directed at me. 
> A lot of the threads on BirdingAus could easily be classified as “mundane & 
> useless” depending on your point of view but that is not a characteristic 
> exclusive to BirdingAus; it simply reflects the society we live in. 
> 
> Forums such as BirdingAus should be places where opinions are freely 
> expressed and argued but there is never any place for abuse and bullying.
> 
> Bob Inglis
> Sandstone Point
> Qld
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