Aboriginal words for endemic species would be an interesting idea to promote
- although I am guessing (as an ignorant Pom) that different language groups
would have different names for the same bird? Certainly there is increasing
acceptance of some such names for native mammals. But gets mighty confusing
for non endemics. And I guess the new C&B (due real soon now!) will probably
not adopt this idea,
On 26/07/07, Denise Goodfellow <> wrote:
>
> I am glad you like it. I think it's terrific. I also like Djut djut
> (Brown
> Falcon). And what about Kolariwikwik for wading birds?
> Denise
>
>
>
> On 26/7/07 4:25 PM, "Gregory Little" <> wrote:
>
> > Gooday birders
> >
> > Now that I have a bit of the history of this birds name I am happy to
> > call it "Djagana". I was proud of the word Jabiru until I was informed
> > that it is not even indigenous and is also applied to overseas birds.
> > Black-necked Stork, while descriptive is too much of a mouthful. Djagana
> > sounds great.
> >
> > Greg Little
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > On Behalf Of Denise
> > Goodfellow
> > Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2007 4:20 PM
> > To: Greg; michael hunter; Birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Whats in a name
> >
> > Most of my American birding clients call the bird Jabiru. Years ago I
> > recommended Djagana (Kunwinjku), or Australasian Jabiru. So Greg, how
> > about
> > the former? At least my Indigenous relatives in the Top End will feel
> > they're at long last getting some sort of recognition!
> > Denise
> > Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> > 1/7 Songlark Street
> > BAKEWELL NT 0832
> > Ph. 61 08 89 328306
> >
> >
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> >
> > On 26/7/07 3:01 PM, "Greg" <> wrote:
> >
> >> As I am presently putting the finishing touches to my PhD thesis on
> > the
> >> Black-necked Stork I had been avoiding the temptation to enter the
> > naming
> >> debate but as the stork's name has been raised (AGAIN!!) I feel I must
> >> reply.
> >> Michael you are able to call the Black-necked Stork "Jabiru' or even
> >> 'Policemanbird' if you like but please, when communicating with
> > others,
> >> particularly those learning the 'accepted common names', don't create
> > more
> >> confusion than is already the case.
> >>
> >> The people who imposed 'Black-necked Stork' on us are no longer with
> > us so
> >> it is no point blaming current 'authorities'. The name 'Black-necked
> > Stork'
> >> has been applied to the species in India since at least 1890 (Hume
> > 1890) and
> >> in Australia at least 1900 (Campbell 1900).
> >>
> >> I agree that the name is not popular but to call our bird 'Jabiru' is
> > akin
> >> to calling our Emu an 'Ostrich'. Because Black-necked Stork is an
> > unwieldy
> >> word with little colour I recommended that our birds (Australia and
> > New
> >> Guinea) be called the 'Satin Stork' when the species is finally split
> > from
> >> the Asian birds and this name has been accepted by Bird Australia. It
> > won't
> >> be
> >> happening in the upcoming Christidis and Boles as more genetic work is
> >> required but initial results indicate that there are two species.
> >>
> >> Without wanting to be rude (to the Jabiru) it is not that similar to
> > our
> >> stork and is certainly not as beautiful. Our birds are closer to the
> >> Saddlebill Stork of South Africa so maybe we should call our birds
> >> 'Australian Saddlebills' - no, just joking!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Greg Clancy
> >>
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