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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: ts7200 won't boot into redboot... I erased flash and killed it....
From: "yur_grampa" <>
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:12:35 -0000
Curtis:
Interesting theory but Q11 is a 16 hz input on pin 15, so that does
not seem plausable to me.

--- In  Curtis Monroe <> wrote:
>
> Looks like you soldered of Q11 (pin 15) the 2Hz output, as opposed
to Pin 11 
> (The reset pin).
> 
> -Curtis.
> 
> 
> On June 7, 2006 01:46 pm, yur_grampa wrote:
> 
> > Chris:
> > Thanks for the response. Things just did not seem to add up.
> > Your post, though may help those users with the ts7250.
> > I have found out some more on not being able to use the serial_blaster
> > and in case you are interested here it is:
> > 
> > By using the fis erase -f 0x60000000 -l 1024
> > 
> > I truly did kill the ts7000. Here is my reasoning:
> > 
> > By preventing the board from going thru its normal boot up, the red
> > and green led's flash at a 2hz rate. This 2 hz rate is the same signal
> > that feeds the 4020 (U21 pin 3). This higher flash rate on a non
> > bootable board like mine means the board resets way before any
> > boot.bin file can be loaded. Attempting to remove pin 11 and tie it
> > high(on the 4020) has NO EFFECT on the blink rate, so I would venture
> > to say the only fix may be with the ts-9420 blaster board or sending
> > the board in. Unfortunately I do not want to have to send the board in
> > when I mess up.
> > I proved the hardwired watchdog "issue"  to myself by taking a scope
> > and measuring the pad where pin 11 touched still results in seeing a 2
> > hz signal. In effect, there is no easy way to disable the
> > watchdog timer on a ts7000(mine is rev B) and the watchdog still
> > appears to be in control of the boot process an prevents serial
> > blaster from loading the boot.bin file (even with jumper 1 on).
> >       On page 19 of the ts7000 manual it states that the watchdog can
> > be programmed for 1 sec-8 sec. My measurements (and what Curtis has
> > stated) is that the ts7000 has a faster timer expiration than the
> > ts7250. And on the ts7000 this is hard programmed into the board. And
> > if you create a problem in the bootflash like I did, you will not be
> > able to recover from it as easily as the ts7250 (no EEPROM). 
> > One interesting find I made is that in the technical reference manual
> > for the EDB9302 (videon central) they include a jumper to disable the
> > watchdog timer. This truly would be a nice feature to have included on
> > the ts-boards in my opinion(hey what about using one of the reserved
> > jtag jumpers?)
> > 
> > Another issue is lack of an EEPROM to store boot code (the EDB9302
> > also includes this). In the EDP9302 manual page 18 it states it
> > supports boot-up over a serial interface from its serial EEPROM and
> > this bootup is determined upon hardware reset. 
> > I noted that the ts7250 does have eeprom so I feel that overall the
> > ts7250 is superior to the ts7000 for the same price even though the
> > ts7250 does not include the compact flash adaptor.
> > I would be very interested in finding out if anyone with a ts7250 has
> > used the:
> > fis erase -f 0x60000000 -l 1024 
> > and then been able to recover using serial blaster. I am considering
> > purchasing one and try this out but if it fails then what?
> > Of course sending the board in to be reflashed would be an option or
> > purchasing the ts-9420 blaster board may work but killing a board for
> > the sake of killing is costly and if the engineers know the answer I
> > hope they will post it.
> > 
> > Well, thats my 2 cents worth and if anyone reading this thinks I
> > misrepresented anything please correct me....
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In  Christopher Friedt <cfriedt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ack. I thought the board in question was a TS-7250 but I must have
> > misread.
> > > 
> > > Good luck yur_grampa!
> > > 
> > > ~/Chris
> > > 
> > > Curtis Monroe wrote:
> > > > I tried to serial boot my TS-7200 today. Its watchdog is set for 1
> > second. So 
> > > > it's impossible to serial boot it without hardware modifications,
> > (or a CPLD 
> > > > reprogram).
> > > > 
> > > > The EP9301 on my board downloads the serial boot program at
> > 9600bps. It can 
> > > > only load 960 Bytes in one second. Not even half of the 2048 Bytes
> > needed to 
> > > > load the SerialBlaster Boot loader.
> > > > 
> > > > My board is a TS-7200 Rev B.
> > > > 
> > > > -Curtis.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On June 5, 2006 11:24 am, Christopher Friedt wrote:
> > > >> Hello yur_grampa,
> > > >>
> > > >> I had the same problem. I edited serialblaster, turned off the 
> > > >> verbosity, stopped serialblaster from flushing the tty buffer
every 
> > > >> byte, and then recompiled it. The error your getting stems
from the 
> > > >> watchdog timer on the ts-7xxx boards. With the flushing as it is
> > now, it 
> > > >> takes approximately 10 x longer to send the actual bin.
> > > >>
> > > >> the key line was # 186 which says not to flush the buffer
unless the 
> > > >> number of chars written (x) was a multiple of 1024... Note: There
> > is a 
> > > >> lot of other junk in there, but don't get confused w/ it... the
> > key line 
> > > >> is "WriteByte(fd, ch, ((x%1024) == 0) );"
> > > >>
> > > >> Here's a diff if it helps...
> > > >>
> > > >> --- serial_blaster.c    2005-08-31 21:24:26.000000000 +0000
> > > >> +++ serial_blaster_modified.c   2006-06-05 15:16:30.000000000
+0000
> > > >> @@ -167,27 +167,28 @@
> > > >>                  {
> > > >>                          if(bverbose)
> > > >>                          {
> > > >> -                               printf("%0.2x", (unsigned
char  )ch);
> > > >> +                               //printf("%0.2x", (unsigned
char)ch);
> > > >>                                  fflush(stdout);
> > > >>                                  out_count += 2;
> > > >> -
> > > >> -                               WriteByte(fd, ch, TRUE);
> > > >> +
> > > >> +                               WriteByte(fd, ch, FALSE);
> > > >> +                               //WriteByte(fd, ch, TRUE);
> > > >>                          }
> > > >>                          else
> > > >>                          {
> > > >>                                  if((x%1024) == 0)
> > > >>                                  {
> > > >> -                                       printf(".");
> > > >> +                                       //printf(".");
> > > >>                                          fflush(stdout);
> > > >>                                          out_count++;
> > > >>                                  }
> > > >> -
> > > >> +                               //WriteByte(fd, ch, FALSE );
> > > >>                                  WriteByte(fd, ch, ((x%1024)
== 0) );
> > > >>                          }
> > > >>
> > > >>                          if(out_count >= LINE_LENGTH)
> > > >>                          {
> > > >> -                               printf("\n");
> > > >> +                               //printf("\n");
> > > >>                                  out_count = 0;
> > > >>                          }
> > > >>
> > > >> @@ -451,6 +452,7 @@
> > > >>          printf("\n");
> > > >>
> > > >>          printf("waiting for '>'\n");
> > > >> +
> > > >>          WaitForChar( fd, '>', 10);
> > > >>          printf("found '>'\n");
> > > >>
> > > >> @@ -459,10 +461,48 @@
> > > >>          cfsetispeed(pnewtio, B115200);
> > > >>          tcsetattr(fd,TCSANOW,pnewtio);
> > > >>           tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH);
> > > >> -
> > > >> +
> > > >>          ProcessRequests(fd, 10);
> > > >>   }
> > > >>
> > > >> +void BootFromFile(int fd, const char* file_name, struct termios*
> > pnewtio )
> > > >> +{
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       printf("waiting for '<'\n");
> > > >> +       WaitForChar( fd, '<', 10);
> > > >> +       printf("found '<'\n");
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       printf("\n");
> > > >> +       printf("--------- SENDING 2K BOOT FILE: \"%s\"
---------\n", 
> > > >> file_name);+//     OutputFile(fd, "ts-preboot-ts9.bin", 2048,
TRUE);
> > > >> +//     OutputFile(fd, "boot.bin", 2048, TRUE);
> > > >> +       OutputFile(fd, file_name, 2048, FALSE);
> > > >> +      
> > printf("--------------------------------------------------\n");
> > > >> +       printf("\n");
> > > >> +
> > > >> +
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       printf("waiting for '>'\n");
> > > >> +
> > > >> +
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       WaitForChar( fd, '>', 10);
> > > >> +       printf("found '>'\n");
> > > >> +
> > > >> +
> > > >> +
> > > >> +        //tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH);
> > > >> +       //cfsetospeed(pnewtio, B115200);
> > > >> +       //cfsetispeed(pnewtio, B115200);
> > > >> +       //tcsetattr(fd,TCSANOW,pnewtio);
> > > >> +        //tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH);
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       //SendFileToTS72XX(fd, "redboot.bin");
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       //ProcessRequests(fd, 50);
> > > >> +}
> > > >> +
> > > >> +
> > > >>  
> > > >>
> >
//=============================================================================
> > 
> > > >> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > > >>   {
> > > >> @@ -478,6 +518,7 @@
> > > >>
> > > >>           bzero(&newtio, sizeof(newtio));
> > > >>           newtio.c_cflag = B9600 | CRTSCTS | CS8 | CLOCAL |
CREAD;
> > > >> +       //newtio.c_cflag = B115200 | CRTSCTS | CS8 | CLOCAL |
CREAD;
> > > >>           newtio.c_iflag = IGNPAR;
> > > >>           newtio.c_oflag = 0;
> > > >>
> > > >> @@ -490,11 +531,13 @@
> > > >>          cfmakeraw(&newtio);
> > > >>           tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH);
> > > >>           tcsetattr(fd,TCSANOW,&newtio);
> > > >> -
> > > >> +
> > > >>   //     GetEP93XXAboutInfo(fd);
> > > >>   //     RequestEP93XXSerialTest(fd);
> > > >> -//     BootFromFileAndProcessRequests(fd, "ts-preboot-ts9.bin",
> > &newtio );
> > > >>          BootFromFileAndProcessRequests(fd, "boot.bin",
&newtio );
> > > >> +//     BootFromFileAndProcessRequests(fd, "boot.bin", &newtio );
> > > >> +//     BootFromFile(fd, "boot.bin", &newtio );
> > > >> +//     DumpMemoryFromTS72XXToFile(fd, "memory_dump.bin");
> > > >>
> > > >>           tcsetattr(fd,TCSANOW,&oldtio);
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> yur_grampa wrote:
> > > >>> Thank you for the info Curtis.
> > > >>> I get the message:
> > > >>>  waiting for '>'
> > > >>> ERROR!!! Expected '>' but found '<'
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Unless I change the boot.s file from:
> > > >>> .org  2048    @ ensures the file is 2k in size. (no more, no less)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> .org  2040    @ 
> > > >>>
> > > >>> and recompile....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Then I get:
> > > >>> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000boot.bin:
Success
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ***Exiting***
> > > >>> ***********************
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I really do not know how Success shows up(must be sent from the
> > TS7000 )
> > > >>> because entering:
> > > >>> linux:/usr/local/opt/sb # find /usr/local/opt/sb -type f -print
> > |xargs
> > > >>> grep -n "Success"
> > > >>> linux:/usr/local/opt/sb #
> > > >>>
> > > >>> yields nothing.... from serialblaster.c or any of the other
support
> > > >>> files...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I can only guess that the ts7000 responded with a Success due to
> > file
> > > >>> transfer.... unfortunately nothing else happens -- it never gets
> > to the:
> > > >>> waiting for '>'
> > > >>> found '>'
> > > >>>
> > > >>> so it does not go to the next function of serial blaster code
> > which as
> > > >>> you know is 
> > > >>> 1.open the bootloader
> > > >>> 2.wait for length acknowlegement
> > > >>> 3.send redboot.bin
> > > >>> 4. execute redboot...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> obviously something is not going correctly so I am left with
taking
> > > >>> the messages received and try to make sense of them-which in
> > this case
> > > >>> will take me some time, but with help I hope it is possible... 
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This kind of troubleshooting can frustrate me but I find the
> > > >>> application very worthy of looking into at great depth, for my
> > own sake..
> > > >>> I feel lucky that such an interesting application is even
offered as
> > > >>> open source...
> > > >>> If I get it to work, I will feel more at ease in being dangerous
> > with
> > > >>> commands I do not know much about... and will want to get
another
> > > >>> model ts7xxx to mess around with....
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In  Curtis Monroe <curtis@> wrote:
> > > >>>> You don't need to "pad" to boot file!!!
> > > >>>> The ".org 2048" does that for you.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> You just can't go over 2048 Bytes. (or you get the error I put
> > in to
> > > >>> warn you)
> > > >>>> Boot.S should easily fit in the 2048 Byte limit. Boot.S is only
> > > >>> really tight 
> > > >>>> when you are making an EEPROM image. The EEPROM image
contains the
> > > >>> NAND ECC 
> > > >>>> routines. The TS7200 does not have a NAND chip, so you
don't need
> > > >>> that code. 
> > > >>>> And it doesn't even have an EEPROM, it boot directly from NOR
> > Flash.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If you are not getting a message that says:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>    waiting for '>'
> > > >>>>    found '>'
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Then you failed to load the 2048 Byte boot code before the
watchdog
> > > >>> reset. The 
> > > >>>> boot code is never executed till you get this message.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Are you getting this message?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Curtis.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On June 2, 2006 08:42 pm, yur_grampa wrote:
> > > >>>>> Bucky2090 in previous post mentioned pg 61 from the Cirris
> > > >>>>> EP9301_User_Guide: 
> > > >>>>> cpu outputs a ">" to signify 2048(decimal) characters from
> > UART1 have
> > > >>>>> been read.
> > > >>>>> That really helped. I did not know how that happened. So I
> > > >>>>> took the screen output of the boot.bin file that serial
> > blaster sends
> > > >>>>> to the ts7200 and noted that it was around 2640 characters.
> > Looking
> > > >>>>> into boot.s 
> > > >>>>> (that eventually compiles to boot.bin) I noted that near the
> > end a ck
> > > >>>>> for size is done:
> > > >>>>>     .org    2048@ ensures the file is 2k in size. (no more, no less)
> > > >>>>> I then realized that the compiled size of boot.bin must be too
> > large
> > > >>>>> even though I did nothing to it but change the value of 32 to
> > 16 on
> > > >>>>> one line of code! 
> > > >>>>> So now a new adventure begins, to try and determine how to
get a
> > > >>>>> workable boot.bin that is 2048 and not 1 character more or
less...
> > > >>>>> Wow! What trickster thought up this one!
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