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From: "pickanameanditstakensoihavethis" <>
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 03:36:44 -0000
--- In  "Mark Carlson" <> 
wrote: 
> 
> On 5/5/06, pickanameanditstakensoihavethis <> 
wrote: 
> > well the licencing has been set to gnu gpl in order to cover  
the 
> > software , ip cores and hardware , but the hardware may have to 
> > change to a more bsd like licence as it looks like a gpl will 
> > prevent  manufactuers form making a profit from manufactureing 
it, 
> > and as without profit it would not be worth making, that will 
need 
> > to be checked and changed to allow it, if it is the case 
>  
> Quick question: 
> I'm no licensing expert, but since you've already released the 
> hardware as GPL, don't you have to keep it that way now?  
(Derivative 
> works and such)  Or am I incorrect?  Is there a way to release it 
> under the BSD license now? 
> 
actualy it is more to do with the fact that the gpl licence is not 
relavent to hardware it will prpbably remain gpl but a modified 
version of gpl for hardware ,, i was aware that there was an attempt 
to create a gpl licence for hardware a couple of years ago , but 
still searching for it atm ,think nothing came of it because no one 
could agree on it  
  
the gpl licence had been used as it covers the software and ip used  
so was carried on to the hardware, but interestingly the gpl 
licencing only covers the documentation in printed or other form and 
media that it might be stored on,  but fails to cover any hardware 
made from it , only the schematics and artwork in printed form , and 
not the physical pcbs once made , from what i can tell atm  
 
ie a built up unit is not what the licence has covered it only 
covered the instructions on how to do it,  
 
even if not  the assembled pcb could be considered media and costs 
of producing that is allowed   
    
as the copywrite holder for the design the hardware has almost a, do 
as you will make as you want  build into whatever you like  
licencing with it but give us credit along with the usual disclamers 
to everything  , but the gpl is what the default ip cores will be 
using ,  
 
the big point that i think has been causing most concern is the fact 
that if the whole system is gpl  it may prevent use as an embedded 
product with a non gnu ip and software ie say a set top ip tv box  
the licence needs to ensure that that use is posible without 
affecting there ip if thay wish to keep that closed source  
that is not intended and not what we will want , and afaik not what 
the GPL licence will require of them  
 
although whatever licence gets used it will only allow less 
restrictions than the gpl on the hardware side that is appearing to 
be less and less sutable to cover it  
  
dave 
 
> -Mark 
> 
 






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