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Re: Keeping cues, marks when transferring files

Subject: Re: Keeping cues, marks when transferring files
From: "D Secomb" dsecomb2
Date: Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:27 pm ((PST))
Umashankar

Yes that worked thank you

David


On 15/01/2017 12:19 PM,  [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
> In audition 1.5, when using save as, there is a tick box saying save
> non audio information. It must be ticked.
>
> umashankar
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: D Secomb  [naturerecordists]
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Keeping cues, marks when transferring
> files
>
> I'm using Audition 1.5.
> I have tried a couple of software that Grant suggested. I couldn't
> find the marks using Wave Agent but BWF Metadata showed that there
> were cues on files which were copied from the original but not with
> those that were edited then saved or save as. The same appears to
> happen with the date and information of a recording. That information
> is there as long one uses copy and save but do anything else its lost.
> David
>
> On 15/01/2017 5:51 AM, Peter Shute 
> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
> What software are you using to edit the files, David? The marks are
> encoded into the wav files by the recorder using a format that only
> some software can interpret. Audacity, for example, simply ignores
> them (or did last time I tried), and when you open the files, there
> are no marks.
>
> The software you're using can obviously read them, but it sounds like
> it ignores them when doing "save as". In order to save them, you will
> need to be saving in a format that supports them, and there might be
> an option to enable saving them.
>
> I have come across methods Audacity users have used to convert them
> into Audacity "label tracks", which Audacity can reliably work with,
> so you might need to do something similar. Note that if I was to do
> that with Audacity, they'd be reliably retained so long as I was
> saving in the native Audacity format, but if I was to "save as" wav
> format, the resulting wav file would contain no trace of them.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 14 Jan 2017, at 6:35 pm, D Secomb
> <> [naturerecordists]
> <<=
>>
> wrote:
>
> I would love so to have it all in 1 place. Yes having a backup would
> do it but finding, digging it out could time consuming and if there
> are several to be found. Having it in the edited version would be
> preferred.
>
> David
>
> On 14/01/2017 2:20 PM, vickipowys
> <>
> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
> Easy. Never work on your original file and never work on your backups.
> Make a copy of the wanted file and work on that :-)
>
> Vicki
>
> On 14/01/2017, at 4:31 PM, D Secomb
> <> [naturerecordists]
> wrote: f
>
> Have I got this right. When dealing with metadata which includes cues/
> marks, they kept if the file is copied or cut to another location but
> if any editing is done to that file, then saved, cues are lost. Is
> there any way to get around this.
>
> David
>
> On 13/0 1/2017 4:31 PM, D Secomb
> <> [naturerecordists]
> wrote:
> Hi Vicki
>
> Thank you for the reply. I have played around a little more playing
> around and found that my facts wasn't exactly right. The cue's does
> remain when copy and cut. They do not show up when I save as which I
> use a lot when editing and filing my recordings. Down loaded Wave
> Agent, had a play with it and can not find the cue information. Maybe
> its not a Sou nd Device recorder.
>
> Thank you again
>
> David
>
> On 12/01/2017 6:01 AM, vickipowys
> <>
> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
> I am mystified David. You would think that whatever info got as far
> as your computer, could then be copied exactly from your computer to
> your backup drive. Perhaps the info is still there as metadata? Have
> you tried Wave Agent? Others in this group have more knowledge than I
> do for t hese sorts of things.
>
> Vicki
>
> On 11/01/2017, at 9:42 AM, D Secomb
> <>
> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> > Some time ago I got a Sony PCM M10. 1 feature I have used is the
> > adding
> > marks or cues of some thing of interest during the recording.
> > Recently I
> > have noticed those marks/cues are still there when the files are
> > transferred to the computer but lost if they copied to another
> > location
> > such as backup drive. As yet I haven't found a solution. Has any one
> > got
> > any suggestions
> > Many thank s.
> > David
> >
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