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Re: Keeping cues, marks when transferring files

Subject: Re: Keeping cues, marks when transferring files
From: "D Secomb" dsecomb2
Date: Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:06 pm ((PST))
I'm using Audition 1.5.

I have tried a couple of software that Grant suggested. I couldn't find
the marks using Wave Agent but BWF Metadata showed that there were cues
on files which were copied from the original but not with those that
were edited then saved or save as. The same appears to happen with the
date and information of a recording. That information is there as long
one uses copy and save but do anything else its lost.

David


On 15/01/2017 5:51 AM, Peter Shute  [naturerecordists]
wrote:
>
> What software are you using to edit the files, David? The marks are
> encoded into the wav files by the recorder using a format that only
> some software can interpret. Audacity, for example, simply ignores
> them (or did last time I tried), and when you open the files, there
> are no marks.
>
> The software you're using can obviously read them, but it sounds like
> it ignores them when doing "save as". In order to save them, you will
> need to be saving in a format that supports them, and there might be
> an option to enable saving them.
>
> I have come across methods Audacity users have used to convert them
> into Audacity "label tracks", which Audacity can reliably work with,
> so you might need to do something similar. Note that if I was to do
> that with Audacity, they'd be reliably retained so long as I was
> saving in the native Audacity format, but if I was to "save as" wav
> format, the resulting wav file would contain no trace of them.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 14 Jan 2017, at 6:35 pm, D Secomb
> <> [naturerecordists]
> <<=
>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I would love so to have it all in 1 place. Yes having a backup would
> do it but finding, digging it out could time consuming and if there
> are several to be found. Having it in the edited version would be
> preferred.
>
> David
>
> On 14/01/2017 2:20 PM, vickipowys
> <>
> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
>
> Easy. Never work on your original file and never work on your backups.
> Make a copy of the wanted file and work on that :-)
>
> Vicki
>
>
> On 14/01/2017, at 4:31 PM, D Secomb
> <> [naturerecordists]
> wrote: f
>
>
> Have I got this right. When dealing with metadata which includes cues/
> marks, they kept if the file is copied or cut to another location but
> if any editing is done to that file, then saved, cues are lost. Is
> there any way to get around this.
>
> David
>
> On 13/0 1/2017 4:31 PM, D Secomb
> <> [naturerecordists]
> wrote:
> Hi Vicki
>
> Thank you for the reply. I have played around a little more playing
> around and found that my facts wasn't exactly right. The cue's does
> remain when copy and cut. They do not show up when I save as which I
> use a lot when editing and filing my recordings. Down loaded Wave
> Agent, had a play with it and can not find the cue information. Maybe
> its not a Sou nd Device recorder.
>
> Thank you again
>
> David
>
> On 12/01/2017 6:01 AM, vickipowys
> <>
> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
>
> I am mystified David. You would think that whatever info got as far
> as your computer, could then be copied exactly from your computer to
> your backup drive. Perhaps the info is still there as metadata? Have
> you tried Wave Agent? Others in this group have more knowledge than I
> do for t hese sorts of things.
>
> Vicki
>
> On 11/01/2017, at 9:42 AM, D Secomb
> <>
> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> > Some time ago I got a Sony PCM M10. 1 feature I have used is the
> > adding
> > marks or cues of some thing of interest during the recording.
> > Recently I
> > have noticed those marks/cues are still there when the files are
> > transferred to the computer but lost if they copied to another
> > location
> > such as backup drive. As yet I haven't found a solution. Has any one
> > got
> > any suggestions
> > Many thank s.
> > David
> >
>
>
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