David,
I have used both the PCMM10 and the LS11 and I like them both. Both have go=
od, quiet preamps for PIP mics. I use EM172 mic capsules. Technically the P=
CM-M10 is a better match for EM172 mic capsules than the LS11, but I have d=
one a lot of listening tests comparing them and I cannot hear any differenc=
e. Both have excellent battery life.
Advantages of the LS11: 8 GB built-in memory; SD card memory expansion; sat=
isfactory stereo imaging with built-in mics. Fits easily in hand. I prefer =
the record function of the LS11 (press "record" twice) over the Sony (press=
"record," then press "play" or "pause").
Advantages of PCM-M10: 5 second pre-record buffer; cross-memory recording (=
switches memory destination if current memory is full); built-in mics are s=
lightly quieter (but stereo image is almost non-existent).
Two great little recorders. So it depends on which features mean the most t=
o you. Hope that helps.
John
=A0John L. Crockett
Let us live in harmony with the Earth And all creatures That our lives may =
be a blessing.
From: "D Secomb [naturerecordists]" <naturereco=
>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Recorder advise for Recorders with PI=
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Thank for those who replied.
I got the D50 in 2009 and was used most weekends. From an earlier post (se=
e 30/8/2015) it appears to be an PCB/logicboard issue. It would freeze on m=
e and nothing worked even switching it off didn't work. When recording, at =
times the record function didn't work, which would happen a few times at th=
e end. This meant slipping the batteries out and starting again. At the end=
it wouldn't connect to the compter and had difficulty playing selected tra=
cks. When it did connect the files that were transferred were corrupted.
The D100 is expensive and not available in Australia. In light getting one=
with problems, I'm not experience international warranties.
It appears M10 is available in Australia and I know of an Olympus LS11.=A0=
Both of these I have a better chance negotiating with my wife.
I'm using Telinga EM-23's mics which if I understand right one of the bett=
er PIP mics.
Still need time to have a good look at the above models.
Cheers
David
On 11/11/2015 1:30 AM, 'Tim Bartlett' [naturere=
cordists] wrote:
=A0 I also have a D50 and have been tempted by the D100 but have heard a=
bout quite a few users having various problems with them, resulting in quit=
e a few machines going back to Sony for replacement. Sounds like once you g=
et a decent one, they are good, but beware of possible teething issues. =
=A0 If PIP mics are your main use, the D100 might be overkill for the price=
vs potential improvements over D50 (assuming you can find a second hand on=
e to buy) =A0 I have seen D50=92s go really cheap on ebay, so there are de=
finite bargains to be had=85.but they are becoming more rare now, and I gue=
ss there is a danger it might die like yours has=85 =A0 What happened to y=
our D50 that killed it then? =A0 Tim =A0 =A0 From: =
hoogroups.com
Sent: 09 November 2015 15:23
To:
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Recorder advise for Recorders with PIP mi=
cs =A0 =A0 The Sony PCM-D100 is an excellent choice, I tend to use m=
ine more than some of my other recorders, due to its portability=A0and reco=
rding capability; without the need for additional cabling, connectors, adap=
ters, batteries, tripods, or even external microphones. There will always =
of course be occasions where a different recorder with specialist external=
=A0microphones would be a better choice (and +$$$$), but if you want a good=
all-round standalone unit with excellent recording quality on a reasonabl=
e but=A0limited budget, then=A0the PCM-D100 is the recommended choice. =A0=
A good argument to convince the Wife, is that the D100 is a replacement un=
it, is of much better quality, and will last for several years=A0 ;-) =A0 =
All the best Lawrence
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