I got the impression that Bob suggested the H2 because it's cheaper that th=
e M10.=0D
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Peter Shute=0D
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On 4 Oct 2014, at 6:49 pm, "Gianni Pavan <gian=
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I would suggest the SONY M10, rather than the H2. The M10 is much quiet=
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2014-10-03 20:22 GMT+02:00 <> [naturer=
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Beatrice,=0D
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Although the Zoom H2 is a useful recorder on its own (it was the first one =
I bought), I would not recommend the Zoom H2 now because it has a very poor=
quality (high noise) input for external microphones. If you continue along=
this path, you will certainly want to start using an external mic, because=
the sound quality is so much higher, and then you would need a new recorde=
r because the H2 just couldn't handle it. I think it is better to start wit=
h a recorder that will give your interest and skill room to grow.=0D
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As Zach Poff's list states, the Sony PCM-M10 and the Roland R-05 are very g=
ood recorders that will also work well with a variety of good-quality exter=
nal microphones. Their only drawback is that they have a rather poor stereo=
image when used with their internal microphones. Nothing is perfect!=0D
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If you can get an Olympus LS-11 or LS-5 I think these are wonderful little =
recorders. They are superior to the current LS-12 and LS-14 in several ways=
. The LS-11 (nearly identical to the LS-5) is my primary recorder and I am =
very happy with it, both for use of the internal mics and for use with high=
-quality external mics.=0D
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The LS-5 is not available in the US and Canada but may be available in Euro=
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Have fun!=0D
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John=0D
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Hi Beatrice,=0D
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I know you will get much better advice than this for much better equipment,=
but my advice is to start small ($) and wait to find out what needs to be =
better before investing too much.=0D
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I would buy an Zoom H2 (~$110 ebay) and a pair of Sony MDR-J10 earphones (=
$20 Radio Shack online?)=0D
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Put the Zoom recorder in your shirt pocket, earphones in the ears and have =
at it. Lots of fun. You'll be able to hear birds that your natural hearin=
g can not. And you will be able to record the sounds for later investigatio=
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Good luck,=0D
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Bob McLean,=0D
Sonoma, CA=0D
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On Oct 2, 2014, at 10:54 PM, beatrice yannacopoulos <yan=
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Hi, Bernie Krause suggested I join this group after I wrote to him asking f=
or advice about recording devices. I am a complete novice, but very eager t=
o learn. I was hoping to get advice on what is a good recoding device to ge=
t me started, so I can start to get a feel for it. Any nudges in the right =
direction will be greatly appreciated. I am writing to you from Athens, Gre=
ece.=0D
Thank you,=0D
Beatrice Yannacopoulos=0D
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