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Re: Distortions when recording tibetan singing bowls/gongs

Subject: Re: Distortions when recording tibetan singing bowls/gongs
From: "John Crockett" naturalcontemplative
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:06 am ((PDT))
I used to have this problem and never understood that the -20dB pad
operates at a different amplifier stage from the level controls and
meters. I had clipping even though the meters showed normal levels. Very
puzzling.

I'd also try the -20dB attenuation setting first and see if that solves it.

John


> If the Marantz has a -20db attenuation switch, it is likely that the
> input stage has two gains, 0 and -20db.
>
> If the sound is so strong that you have to lower the recording wheel
> to 4 (or below) it is possible that the input amplifier is clipping
> when it is set to 0db gain. This will be heard, but not show on the
> meters.
> Then use the -20 db attenuation and turn up the wheel.
>
> I also agree with some of the others here: Sometimes we don't hear a
> sound as distortion irl, but when recorded.
>
> Klas.
>
>
>
> At 05:01 2013-10-25, you wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Klas,
>>
>>The Marantz does have a setting option for - 20db attenuation but I
>>have it turned off. The Gain wheel is between 4 and 7 (out of 10). I
>>can actually hear the distortions In the headphones while recording,
>>however, the level is still between -20 and -10 dB so way below the
>>0 dB threshold. I really don't know what can be causing this problem.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Eric
>>
>>
>>On 25/10/2013, at 11:31 AM, Klas Strandberg
>><<>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Does the Marantz have a - 20db attenuation, or similar?
>>>Do you use it?
>>>
>>>At which number is the gain wheel when you record?
>>>
>>>Klas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 02:12 2013-10-25, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I've recently faced a problem that I am not sure how to solve and
>>>>I was hoping to get some leads from you guys.
>>>>
>>>>The situation is that sometimes when I record tibetan singing
>>>>bowls/gongs I get distortions in the recording that sound like if
>>>>the recording is clipping, however, I am well below the 0 dB
>>>>level, usually about -10 to -20 dB at the peak. I use two Rode
>>>>NT5's and a Marantz PMD661 and the distortion is audible on both
>>>> channels.
>>>>Since I am well below the usual clipping level I am wondering if
>>>>the vibrations that are created by the singing bowls/gongs somehow
>>>>affect the microphone, like making the diaphragm vibrate. Has
>>>>anyone come across a similar phenomenon?
>>>>
>>>>I look forward to your thoughts,
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> email: 
> website: www.telinga.com
>


John Crockett

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