Yes, it was the umbrella I was referring to. Kill keep this arrangement in =
mind, it looks comfortable in there.=0D
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Sent from my iPad=0D
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On 07/03/2013, at 6:00 PM, "Eric Fassbender" <> wrote=
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> Not sure what you refer to so here is my answer to the two items that I t=
hink you might refer to.=0D
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> Mozzie net - Nope. As I said, I weigh it down with rocks and branches so =
there's no flapping. The only distracting noise I have recorded occasionall=
y is from the tip of the umbrella which sometimes gets caught in the mozzie=
net and when I try to remove it while recording it makes a little tearing/=
popping noise from when it comes loose.=0D
>=0D
> Small umbrella - yes, a bit if held horizontally directly in front of the=
mics as a windshield (note: I had to cut off the little velcro strip that =
wraps around it for storage because that was definitely flapping). However,=
most of the time I can stop the minimal flapping of the umbrella by just h=
olding the nylon and giving it some more tension, so no problems there. Whe=
n it gets so windy that I can't prevent recording noise from all the protec=
tive gear it is usually time to pack up anyway as that's pretty much the po=
int when the danger of gear getting damaged from the wind blowing it or the=
patio umbrella over becomes too big. I've had a close encounter and I'll b=
e storing my gear and especially the mics away first thing next time! Nothi=
ng happened but it was close.=0D
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> Cheers,=0D
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> Eric=0D
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> On 07/03/2013, at 12:16 PM, Peter Shute <> wrote:=0D
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>> Doesn't it flap in the wind?=0D
>>=0D
>> Peter Shute=0D
>>=0D
>>> -----Original Message-----=0D
>>> From: =0D
>>> On Behalf Of Eric Fassbender=
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>>> Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2013 1:40 PM=0D
>>> To: =0D
>>> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Cleaning and preventing fly=0D
>>> sounds in recordings=0D
>>>=0D
>>>=0D
>>>=0D
>>> Hi,=0D
>>>=0D
>>> I just felt that I owed all of you a response to your=0D
>>> suggestions in regards to preventing flies in recordings. So=0D
>>> here it is, even if belated :)=0D
>>>=0D
>>> My current solution:=0D
>>>=0D
>>> On Facebook=0D
>>>=0D
>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3D504319572951789&set=3Dpb=0D
>>> .147092948674455.-2207520000.1362622723&type=3D3&theater=0D
>>>=0D
>>> On website=0D
>>>=0D
>>> http://www.australian-nature-sounds.com/pictures/P1010182.JPG=0D
>>>=0D
>>> But as you may see this is only a solution when I'm=0D
>>> travelling to the location by car. For remote locations I=0D
>>> have another solution ...=0D
>>> As you can see in the picture, I also carry a small umbrella=0D
>>> with me (on the ground). This is mostly to protect my gear=0D
>>> and myself from unexpected rain or provide shade, however,=0D
>>> the Rode NT5's are very sensitive to wind, even with a blimp=0D
>>> and windjammer fur. So the umbrella occasionally doubles as=0D
>>> an extra windshield in very strong wind conditions. Yes, the=0D
>>> sound quality is reduced, however, in high wind situations=0D
>>> this minimal reduction in quality does not bother me that=0D
>>> much. The sound of the wind in the trees is definitely loud=0D
>>> enough to make up for some other effects.=0D
>>>=0D
>>> However, apart from using the small umbrella for rain and=0D
>>> wind protection, I also use it for fly protection now. I have=0D
>>> purchased the cheapest and lightest mozzie net on eBay (so it=0D
>>> adds absolutely minimal weight and bulk to my pack and if it=0D
>>> rips I won't be stressed) and I hang this over the umbrella=0D
>>> which I then hold over the microphones. That keeps the flies=0D
>>> away far enough so their sound is reduced so it is almost=0D
>>> inaudible :) In a high wind situation I just weigh the net=0D
>>> down with rocks or branches. Good training for the hand and=0D
>>> shoulder muscles, too ;)=0D
>>>=0D
>>> Thanks again for your input :)=0D
>>>=0D
>>> Eric=0D
>>>=0D
>>> On 29/01/2013, at 12:48 AM, =0D
>>> wrote:=0D
>>>=0D
>>>> E-Mail group of individuals interested i Group=0D
>>>> 5 New MessagesDigest #5689=0D
>>>> 1aRe: Using Phantom Power with Sennheiser K6 Module by=0D
>>> "Gianni Pavan"=0D
>>>> gpavan1960 2aminidiscs? by "Debbi B." dgbrusco=0D
>>>> 2bRe: minidiscs? by "jtudor2005" jtudor2005=0D
>>>> 3aRe: Blimp wind cover for ME66 by "vickipowys" vpowys=0D
>>>> 4aRe: Cleaning and preventing fly sounds in recordings by=0D
>>> "vickipowys"=0D
>>>> vpowys=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Messages=0D
>>>> 1aRe: Using Phantom Power with Sennheiser K6 Module Sun Jan=0D
>>> 27, 2013=0D
>>>> 8:33 am (PST) . Posted by:"Gianni Pavan" gpavan1960in my experience=0D
>>>> the K6/ME66 combination is noisier when operated on batteries,=0D
>>>> moreover, they produce narrow peak above 25 kHz (variable=0D
>>> in different=0D
>>>> units). see the plots at the end of web page=0D
>>>> http://www.unipv.it/cibra/res_techtest_uk.html=0D
>>>> My K6 units have been serviced by sennheiser but the peaks did not=0D
>>>> disappear.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Gianni=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> 2013/1/27 Jerry Berrier =0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>> **=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Does it matter whether I use the built-in battery on the K6 or=0D
>>>>> 48-volt power from my recorder?=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Jerry Berrier=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> 508-735-4420=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> --=0D
>>>> Centro Interdisciplinare di Bioacustica e Ricerche Ambientali=0D
>>>> Universit=C3=A0 degli Studi di Pavia Via Taramelli 24, 27100 Pavia=0D
>>>> http://www.unipv.it/cibra http://mammiferimarini.unipv.it=0D
>>>>=0D
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>>>> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All=0D
>>> Messages=0D
>>>> (5) . Top ^ 2aminidiscs?=0D
>>>> Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:03 pm (PST) . Posted by:"Debbi B."=0D
>>> dgbruscoI have a couple of recorders and mic that I haven't=0D
>>> used in a long time.=0D
>>>> Does anyone still use minidiscs(i.e. would it be worth=0D
>>> trying to sell=0D
>>>> them?)?=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Sony MZ-R50=0D
>>>> Sony MZ-NH1=0D
>>>> Sony ECM-MS957=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> And if anyone is interested in these, please let me know.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Thanks.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Debbi=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All=0D
>>> Messages=0D
>>>> (2) . Top ^=0D
>>>> 2bRe: minidiscs?=0D
>>>> Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:"jtudor2005"=0D
>>> jtudor2005They are probably more useful for that time when=0D
>>> you have a need to transfer something from mini-disc to=0D
>>> another format.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> I often get requests for transfer from tape to CD and my=0D
>>> old tape (but well maintained) recorders come into use.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> --- In =0D
>>> , "Debbi B." wrote:=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> I have a couple of recorders and mic that I haven't used=0D
>>> in a long time.=0D
>>>>> Does anyone still use minidiscs(i.e. would it be worth trying to=0D
>>>>> sell them?)?=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Sony MZ-R50=0D
>>>>> Sony MZ-NH1=0D
>>>>> Sony ECM-MS957=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> And if anyone is interested in these, please let me know.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Thanks.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Debbi=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All=0D
>>> Messages=0D
>>>> (2) . Top ^=0D
>>>> 3aRe: Blimp wind cover for ME66=0D
>>>> Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:"vickipowys"=0D
>>> vpowysPeter,=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> My response may be too late but I'll send it anyway.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> I have an ME66 which I use in the field with a slip-on Rode=0D
>>> Softie and=0D
>>>> handle, very useful but it will catch some wind rumble. I make sure=0D
>>>> the area of the on-off switch is also covered with furry=0D
>>> fabric as it=0D
>>>> is sensitive to wind, for some reason. You can use an=0D
>>> ordinary comb to=0D
>>>> brush the softie hair, you don't need a special brush. It=0D
>>> is important=0D
>>>> that the fur not be matted and that it should bend in the wind and=0D
>>>> 'confuse' the wind rather than stop it dead.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> If I am looking to get a really good lyrebird recording=0D
>>> with no hint=0D
>>>> of wind rumble then I use a full Rode blimp with the ME66=0D
>>> plus handle=0D
>>>> on a monopod. The fact that the blimp completely covers the back of=0D
>>>> the mic and the cable attachment, and is rounded at the=0D
>>> front, are all=0D
>>>> positives. I have the furry cover but never need to use it,=0D
>>> instead I=0D
>>>> have found that the mesh cover, plus a green furry mohair=0D
>>> cover (good=0D
>>>> cammo) are all that I need.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Mostly I use the softie simply because it is quicker, lighter and=0D
>>>> easier but the full blimp is fantastic for certain situations.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Vicki=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> On 22/01/2013, at 8:25 AM, Peter Shute wrote:=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>> My experience with the foam and fur on the ME66 hasn't=0D
>>> been good in=0D
>>>>> stronger winds. After hearing so many comments to the=0D
>>> contrary, I'm=0D
>>>>> wondering if my problems are due to an inadequate furry=0D
>>> cover. I'm=0D
>>>>> not even sure what type it is, it came with the second=0D
>>> hand ME66 I=0D
>>>>> bought. I've always thought the fur seemed too short, so perhaps=0D
>>>>> just replacing the cover would have done the job.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> However, unfortunately the blim is now ordered, so I'll=0D
>>> get to see=0D
>>>>> what it can do. I had been thinking of the possibility of=0D
>>> an NT4 in=0D
>>>>> the future, so it won't go to waste.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Or, thinking of having tolug it around, maybe I should=0D
>>> exchange it.=0D
>>>>> What's the best model of furry cover that will go over the foam?=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Peter Shute=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All=0D
>>> Messages=0D
>>>> (22) . Top ^=0D
>>>> 4aRe: Cleaning and preventing fly sounds in recordings Sun Jan 27,=0D
>>>> 2013 10:47 pm (PST) . Posted by:"vickipowys" vpowysHi Eric,=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Flies that land on your mics are pretty much impossible to=0D
>>> remove with=0D
>>>> audio editing altho you can modify them a little with=0D
>>> something like=0D
>>>> RX.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> I agree with Dan, the best bet are those folding clothes=0D
>>> hampers made=0D
>>>> with fine mesh which would stop the flies actually landing on the=0D
>>>> mics. That way you will hear the flies as part of the=0D
>>> environment but=0D
>>>> without the intrusion of 'landing in your ears'. Another=0D
>>> thing I used=0D
>>>> to try was a piece of lightweight cotton cloth, give that a light=0D
>>>> spray with aerogard, then drape it over the mic rig, there would be=0D
>>>> just enough scent to stop the flies landing on the rig but=0D
>>> not enough=0D
>>>> to damage any equipment.=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> It's all very well for Andrew to say 'don't record in areas where=0D
>>>> there are flies' but one of the most beautiful locations I=0D
>>> came across=0D
>>>> in Kakadu for recording Little Shrike-thrush was laden with large=0D
>>>> stripey purple flies, obviously the birds liked to eat=0D
>>> them. I rested=0D
>>>> the mic rig on a log and gently waved a leafy branch back=0D
>>> and forth to=0D
>>>> stop the flies landing, whilst dreaming up a foolproof fly=0D
>>> net for my=0D
>>>> next visit!=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Just a few ideas,=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> Vicki=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>> On 21/01/2013, at 10:54 AM, Eric Fassbender wrote:=0D
>>>>=0D
>>>>> Hi all and thanks for welcoming me to the community.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> I currently live in Darwin, Australia so most of my recordings=0D
>>>>> feature sounds from the tropical north. If you are=0D
>>> interested, feel=0D
>>>>> free to have a listen on my website or on Soundcloud=0D
>>> (details below).=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> One problem that I often face are flies that mess up my=0D
>>> recordings=0D
>>>>> (being in Australia's outback, flies are a very common=0D
>>> occurrence).=0D
>>>>> Does anyone have suggestions on a) how to remove the=0D
>>> nasty buzzing=0D
>>>>> sounds from existing recordings or (and this would be even more=0D
>>>>> helpful) b) how to prevent flies in recordings in the first place?=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> In regards to a) my current approach is to just chop the=0D
>>> bits where=0D
>>>>> the flies are too dominant but in some recordings that=0D
>>> means that I=0D
>>>>> not only lose 70% of the recording but it is also a whole heap of=0D
>>>>> work where the 3 minute outcome does not justify the 6 hours of=0D
>>>>> editing. The problem is that the buzzing sound goes right=0D
>>> across the=0D
>>>>> frequency spectrum from about 300 Hz to about 3KHz. It would be=0D
>>>>> great if someone had a suggestion on how I can remove or=0D
>>> mask this=0D
>>>>> annoyance.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> In regards to b) I've been thinking about all sorts of=0D
>>>>> constructions, like mozzie nets that can be installed around the=0D
>>>>> microphones or some sort of repellent to keep the flies away,=0D
>>>>> however, the problem with mozzie nets is that the=0D
>>> additional weight=0D
>>>>> and stuff that I have to carry and the time it takes to set=0D
>>>>> everything up does again not seem to justify the result. And=0D
>>>>> apparently there is no fly repellent that really works,=0D
>>> so that just=0D
>>>>> seems to be pouring money down the drain for something=0D
>>> that is very=0D
>>>>> likely to not work. Plus, I wouldn't want to spray any=0D
>>> chemical on=0D
>>>>> the windjammers anyway.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> My recording gear includes a Marantz PMD661 with a pair=0D
>>> of matched=0D
>>>>> Rode NT5's. The NT5's are very sensitive and not normally=0D
>>> the best=0D
>>>>> choice for even slightly windy situations, however, when combined=0D
>>>>> with a blimp and windjammer they create a brilliant and authentic=0D
>>>>> stereo image of the locations. I am very happy with this=0D
>>> setup as it=0D
>>>>> is very compact and the quality of the recordings is very=0D
>>> good too.=0D
>>>>> It's just the bloody flies that I need to get rid off. So=0D
>>> if anyone=0D
>>>>> has some recommendations or tricks on how to remove flies from=0D
>>>>> existing recordings without compromising too much of the actual=0D
>>>>> desired sounds or on how to prevent flies from entering the=0D
>>>>> recording space in the first place, that would be much=0D
>>> appreciated.=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> I look forward to hearing from you,=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Eric=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>>=0D
>>>>> Website: www.australian-nature-sounds.com=0D
>>>>> Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/australiannaturesounds=0D
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