Doesn't it flap in the wind?
Peter Shute
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> On Behalf Of Eric Fassbender
> Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2013 1:40 PM
> To:
> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Cleaning and preventing fly
> sounds in recordings
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I just felt that I owed all of you a response to your
> suggestions in regards to preventing flies in recordings. So
> here it is, even if belated :)
>
> My current solution:
>
> On Facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3D504319572951789&set=3Dpb
> .147092948674455.-2207520000.1362622723&type=3D3&theater
>
> On website
>
> http://www.australian-nature-sounds.com/pictures/P1010182.JPG
>
> But as you may see this is only a solution when I'm
> travelling to the location by car. For remote locations I
> have another solution ...
> As you can see in the picture, I also carry a small umbrella
> with me (on the ground). This is mostly to protect my gear
> and myself from unexpected rain or provide shade, however,
> the Rode NT5's are very sensitive to wind, even with a blimp
> and windjammer fur. So the umbrella occasionally doubles as
> an extra windshield in very strong wind conditions. Yes, the
> sound quality is reduced, however, in high wind situations
> this minimal reduction in quality does not bother me that
> much. The sound of the wind in the trees is definitely loud
> enough to make up for some other effects.
>
> However, apart from using the small umbrella for rain and
> wind protection, I also use it for fly protection now. I have
> purchased the cheapest and lightest mozzie net on eBay (so it
> adds absolutely minimal weight and bulk to my pack and if it
> rips I won't be stressed) and I hang this over the umbrella
> which I then hold over the microphones. That keeps the flies
> away far enough so their sound is reduced so it is almost
> inaudible :) In a high wind situation I just weigh the net
> down with rocks or branches. Good training for the hand and
> shoulder muscles, too ;)
>
> Thanks again for your input :)
>
> Eric
>
> On 29/01/2013, at 12:48 AM,
> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> > E-Mail group of individuals interested i Group
> > 5 New MessagesDigest #5689
> > 1aRe: Using Phantom Power with Sennheiser K6 Module by
> "Gianni Pavan"
> > gpavan1960 2aminidiscs? by "Debbi B." dgbrusco
> > 2bRe: minidiscs? by "jtudor2005" jtudor2005
> > 3aRe: Blimp wind cover for ME66 by "vickipowys" vpowys
> > 4aRe: Cleaning and preventing fly sounds in recordings by
> "vickipowys"
> > vpowys
> >
> > Messages
> > 1aRe: Using Phantom Power with Sennheiser K6 Module Sun Jan
> 27, 2013
> > 8:33 am (PST) . Posted by:"Gianni Pavan" gpavan1960in my experience
> > the K6/ME66 combination is noisier when operated on batteries,
> > moreover, they produce narrow peak above 25 kHz (variable
> in different
> > units). see the plots at the end of web page
> > http://www.unipv.it/cibra/res_techtest_uk.html
> > My K6 units have been serviced by sennheiser but the peaks did not
> > disappear.
> >
> > Gianni
> >
> > 2013/1/27 Jerry Berrier
> > <jerry.berrier%40comcast.net> >
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Does it matter whether I use the built-in battery on the K6 or
> > > 48-volt power from my recorder?
> > >
> > > Jerry Berrier
> > >
> > > 508-735-4420
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> > (5) . Top ^ 2aminidiscs?
> > Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:03 pm (PST) . Posted by:"Debbi B."
> dgbruscoI have a couple of recorders and mic that I haven't
> used in a long time.
> > Does anyone still use minidiscs(i.e. would it be worth
> trying to sell
> > them?)?
> >
> > Sony MZ-R50
> > Sony MZ-NH1
> > Sony ECM-MS957
> >
> > And if anyone is interested in these, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Debbi
> >
> >
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> > 2bRe: minidiscs?
> > Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:"jtudor2005"
> jtudor2005They are probably more useful for that time when
> you have a need to transfer something from mini-disc to
> another format.
> >
> > I often get requests for transfer from tape to CD and my
> old tape (but well maintained) recorders come into use.
> >
> > --- In
> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Debbi B." wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a couple of recorders and mic that I haven't used
> in a long time.
> > > Does anyone still use minidiscs(i.e. would it be worth trying to
> > > sell them?)?
> > >
> > > Sony MZ-R50
> > > Sony MZ-NH1
> > > Sony ECM-MS957
> > >
> > > And if anyone is interested in these, please let me know.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Debbi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > 3aRe: Blimp wind cover for ME66
> > Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:"vickipowys"
> vpowysPeter,
> >
> > My response may be too late but I'll send it anyway.
> >
> > I have an ME66 which I use in the field with a slip-on Rode
> Softie and
> > handle, very useful but it will catch some wind rumble. I make sure
> > the area of the on-off switch is also covered with furry
> fabric as it
> > is sensitive to wind, for some reason. You can use an
> ordinary comb to
> > brush the softie hair, you don't need a special brush. It
> is important
> > that the fur not be matted and that it should bend in the wind and
> > 'confuse' the wind rather than stop it dead.
> >
> > If I am looking to get a really good lyrebird recording
> with no hint
> > of wind rumble then I use a full Rode blimp with the ME66
> plus handle
> > on a monopod. The fact that the blimp completely covers the back of
> > the mic and the cable attachment, and is rounded at the
> front, are all
> > positives. I have the furry cover but never need to use it,
> instead I
> > have found that the mesh cover, plus a green furry mohair
> cover (good
> > cammo) are all that I need.
> >
> > Mostly I use the softie simply because it is quicker, lighter and
> > easier but the full blimp is fantastic for certain situations.
> >
> > Vicki
> >
> > On 22/01/2013, at 8:25 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
> >
> > > My experience with the foam and fur on the ME66 hasn't
> been good in
> > > stronger winds. After hearing so many comments to the
> contrary, I'm
> > > wondering if my problems are due to an inadequate furry
> cover. I'm
> > > not even sure what type it is, it came with the second
> hand ME66 I
> > > bought. I've always thought the fur seemed too short, so perhaps
> > > just replacing the cover would have done the job.
> > >
> > > However, unfortunately the blim is now ordered, so I'll
> get to see
> > > what it can do. I had been thinking of the possibility of
> an NT4 in
> > > the future, so it won't go to waste.
> > >
> > > Or, thinking of having tolug it around, maybe I should
> exchange it.
> > > What's the best model of furry cover that will go over the foam?
> > >
> > > Peter Shute
> > >
> >
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> > 4aRe: Cleaning and preventing fly sounds in recordings Sun Jan 27,
> > 2013 10:47 pm (PST) . Posted by:"vickipowys" vpowysHi Eric,
> >
> > Flies that land on your mics are pretty much impossible to
> remove with
> > audio editing altho you can modify them a little with
> something like
> > RX.
> >
> > I agree with Dan, the best bet are those folding clothes
> hampers made
> > with fine mesh which would stop the flies actually landing on the
> > mics. That way you will hear the flies as part of the
> environment but
> > without the intrusion of 'landing in your ears'. Another
> thing I used
> > to try was a piece of lightweight cotton cloth, give that a light
> > spray with aerogard, then drape it over the mic rig, there would be
> > just enough scent to stop the flies landing on the rig but
> not enough
> > to damage any equipment.
> >
> > It's all very well for Andrew to say 'don't record in areas where
> > there are flies' but one of the most beautiful locations I
> came across
> > in Kakadu for recording Little Shrike-thrush was laden with large
> > stripey purple flies, obviously the birds liked to eat
> them. I rested
> > the mic rig on a log and gently waved a leafy branch back
> and forth to
> > stop the flies landing, whilst dreaming up a foolproof fly
> net for my
> > next visit!
> >
> > Just a few ideas,
> >
> > Vicki
> >
> > On 21/01/2013, at 10:54 AM, Eric Fassbender wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all and thanks for welcoming me to the community.
> > >
> > > I currently live in Darwin, Australia so most of my recordings
> > > feature sounds from the tropical north. If you are
> interested, feel
> > > free to have a listen on my website or on Soundcloud
> (details below).
> > >
> > > One problem that I often face are flies that mess up my
> recordings
> > > (being in Australia's outback, flies are a very common
> occurrence).
> > > Does anyone have suggestions on a) how to remove the
> nasty buzzing
> > > sounds from existing recordings or (and this would be even more
> > > helpful) b) how to prevent flies in recordings in the first place?
> > >
> > > In regards to a) my current approach is to just chop the
> bits where
> > > the flies are too dominant but in some recordings that
> means that I
> > > not only lose 70% of the recording but it is also a whole heap of
> > > work where the 3 minute outcome does not justify the 6 hours of
> > > editing. The problem is that the buzzing sound goes right
> across the
> > > frequency spectrum from about 300 Hz to about 3KHz. It would be
> > > great if someone had a suggestion on how I can remove or
> mask this
> > > annoyance.
> > >
> > > In regards to b) I've been thinking about all sorts of
> > > constructions, like mozzie nets that can be installed around the
> > > microphones or some sort of repellent to keep the flies away,
> > > however, the problem with mozzie nets is that the
> additional weight
> > > and stuff that I have to carry and the time it takes to set
> > > everything up does again not seem to justify the result. And
> > > apparently there is no fly repellent that really works,
> so that just
> > > seems to be pouring money down the drain for something
> that is very
> > > likely to not work. Plus, I wouldn't want to spray any
> chemical on
> > > the windjammers anyway.
> > >
> > > My recording gear includes a Marantz PMD661 with a pair
> of matched
> > > Rode NT5's. The NT5's are very sensitive and not normally
> the best
> > > choice for even slightly windy situations, however, when combined
> > > with a blimp and windjammer they create a brilliant and authentic
> > > stereo image of the locations. I am very happy with this
> setup as it
> > > is very compact and the quality of the recordings is very
> good too.
> > > It's just the bloody flies that I need to get rid off. So
> if anyone
> > > has some recommendations or tricks on how to remove flies from
> > > existing recordings without compromising too much of the actual
> > > desired sounds or on how to prevent flies from entering the
> > > recording space in the first place, that would be much
> appreciated.
> > >
> > > I look forward to hearing from you,
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >
> > > Website: www.australian-nature-sounds.com
> > > Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/australiannaturesounds
> > >
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