>I listened to your Robin songs with interest, and assume the extra 'presen=
ce' in
>the second half is due to the iRig's extra gain?
Hi Max,
I think the "extra presence" is due to the fact that the AT3032 has the cap=
sule facing towards "outside" the parabola, consequently captures more envi=
ronmental noise than the two EM172 connected in parallel but with the capsu=
le facing inward the dish. We must also consider the goodness of AT3032, su=
rely higher in quality than that of EM172. However, the song of the Robin, =
in my opinion, is equal if not higher in the first part relating to EM172, =
although drier, less soft than the second part recorded with iRig Pre + AT3=
Message: 032.
Subject: Are you in accord?
On the other hand, it is practically impossible to arrange an AT3032 with t=
he capsule at the focus of the Telinga Universal and facing it inward the d=
ish.
Theoretically, being omnidirectional microphones, the direction in which th=
ey are addressed (In or OUT) in the parabola should not have much importanc=
e, but in reality I think that some influence is heard, at least in the bac=
kground.
...but, at this point, it would be better to hear the father of Telinga... =
Klas!
Cheers
Marco Pesente
--- In "Max" <> wrote:
>
> Hi Marco!
> I can't believe I ordered mine a few days after you, and you still haven'=
t got yours!? You WILL find it much easier.
> I listened to your Robin songs with interest, and assume the extra 'prese=
nce' in the second half is due to the iRig's extra gain? I'm not familiar w=
ith the Roland R05; does it have sense settings like my LS-10?
> I was fascinated to see that record insects underwater! Extraordinary!
> Cheers
> Max
>
>
> --- In m.pesente@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Max!
> > unlike you, I'm always waiting for my lead adaptor from US!
> > So, for now I'm always experimenting with my complex system linking iRi=
g Pre and Roland R05 or Olympus LS5 etc.
> > This is a link http://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/robin-3phrasesem172-=
2caps-vs to an IRigPre+AT3032 Vs EM172's practical test.
> > See the note posted on Soundcloud for settings of the microphones in Te=
linga Universal.
> > We feel as soon as the cable will come to me!
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Marco Pesente from Italy
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In "Max" <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi to Marco and all,
> > > The lead arrived today, and I have just tested it and this is what I'=
ve found. Plug into MIC; Turn LS-10 gain to 2 and reduce iRig gain to minim=
um. Set sense to Low and turn on to Record Pause; adjust gain on iRig. Ther=
e will be no response if gain is set to zero on LS-10.
> > > I've done a very quick test with these settings, and at maximum gain =
on the iRig, and I have to say that I'm extremely surprised at the quality.=
All being well I'll do another test late at night with no outdoor traffic,=
and with all nearby electrical components turned off. I will then submit a=
short sample for one of our 'tech boys' to examine, and give us a more cri=
tical opinion. I should have said that the mic I used was an AT3032. One th=
ing already for the 'tech boys' is, that Audition showed two identical wave=
forms; not one?
> > > Cheers
> > > Max
> > > p.s. recording at 88.2 - 24bit.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In "Max" <maxcatterwell@> wrote=
:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Marco,
> > > > You are of course perfectly correct in saying that headphones can b=
e used via the recording unit! As I understand it, the eBay connector socke=
t is designed to take a TRRS jack as the iPhone/iPod has. The advert has MA=
C in the title, and also says 'Convert your stereo headphones that also hav=
e an integrated microphone'.
> > > > It will be interesting to find out; I too have ordered one, on the =
basis that I'm in no rush, and it's easier!
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Max
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In m.pesente@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Max,
> > > > > I know, it's a fancy way of what I have done to connect the iRig =
Pre to an external recorder, but it's the only way I was able to ensure tha=
t everything is working.
> > > > > Listening is done by connecting the headphones to the recorder (u=
sing FelMicamp cable for now!), while the headphone jack of the IRig Pre mu=
st be plugged with a 4 pins Jack, preferably with the headset for Iphone (d=
o not ask me why, but in my case it is so!), because there is no signal for=
headphones from Irig Pre!
> > > > > I just bought on Ebay the cable you sent the link: I hope it work=
s, even if I have some doubts because the OUT on iRig Pre (as previously sa=
id)seems to be plugged with a 4 pins jack instead of 3 pins, but soon we'll=
know!
> > > > > I hope I explained the best...
> > > > > Thanks for the Ebay link!
> > > > >
> > > > > Marco Pesente from Italy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In "Max" <maxcatterwell@> w=
rote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Pesente,
> > > > > > Many thanks for your input here. I have to confess that I didn'=
t fully understand your explanation, probably because I'm not really awake =
yet! If I did understand that you're using the headphone OUT on the iRig, t=
hen I'm confused, because I thought I'd read somewhere that the headphone O=
UT was not passed through from the iRig, but was a return from the iPhone? =
BUT, I'm not that well educated in this area, so I probably got it wrong.
> > > > > > Anyway, one method I was going to try, being quite lazy, was th=
is:
> > > > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330820239423?ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEWAX:=
IT&_trksid=3Dp3984.m1423.l2649
> > > > > > To make it neater you could cut off the headphone lead and insu=
late. The only problem with this is, if what I heard is correct, then there=
wouldn't be any signal from the iRig headphone output.
> > > > > > Can you enlighten me on any of this please?
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Max
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In m.pesente@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Max,
> > > > > > > I connected the iRig Pre to some of my small audio recorders =
(M10, LS5, Roland R05, Zoom H1 etc) feeding a single AT 3032 Ph 48v with ve=
ry good results. I am very pleased with this small microphone preamplifier =
iRig Pre suggested me by Gianni Pavan. In order to use the iRig Pre on a de=
vice other than a IOs system (iPhone, etc.), for which it was designed, ju=
st plug in a 3.5mm "four pins" jack (the same of an IPhone headphones cable=
) to the IRig Pre headphones OUT and a pair of headphones 3,5 Jack connecte=
d to a 10 cm cable "FEL Socket Saver, stereo" sold by FelMicAmp. Only in th=
is way I'm able to obtain at the same time to record and monitor the record=
ing with a device different from IPhone system.
> > > > > > > Max, once you have made or found a cable that enables to conn=
ect the iRig Pre with an audio recorder in an easier way than mine, I would=
be grateful if you would inform us.
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pesente Marco from Italy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "I apologize for any mistakes due to typing by cell phone and=
the help of the online translator!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In "Max" <maxcatterwell=
@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Mike and all,
> > > > > > > > Apologies for not getting back earlier. I have to say that =
I'm quite impressed with the iRig pre. I tried it using my only remaining A=
T3032 (really wish I hadn't sold my other two!) and the quality improvement=
over the internal mic of my iPod Touch was obvious. Most obvious was loss =
of low frequency random noise, in addition to the obvious benefit of gain. =
My simple tests were using my 66 year old ears, which aren't that good, so =
take this as you will; I'm sorry it's not more scientific. What I intend to=
do next is to try the beast with my LS-10 after buying/making an adapter.
> > > > > > > > As an aside note, I re-tried the the Nakamichi CM-300 set a=
gain yesterday with my LS-10. This time, I used the low setting sense setti=
ng and then upped amplitude by 6db in Audition. The results certainly confi=
rmed what Umashankar said; this is a really good quality, quiet and useful =
set to carry (shotgun CP4 with very narrow super cardioid pattern; omni and=
cardioid shorts). Whether or not I'd be prepared to pay the asking price I=
've seen on eBay USA sometimes, I'm not sure, but if any of you get the cha=
nce to pick one up cheaply, I'd say don't hesitate. The only downside is th=
at the batteries are not cheap, but according to Umashankar it's posssible =
to convert to phantom power.
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > Max
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In "Max" <maxcatterwe=
ll@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No problem Mike, glad to be of help.
> > > > > > > > > Max
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Michael Dalton <=
mdaltonarielle@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Howdy Max!
> > > > > > > > > > =A0
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the lead. I have filed it as a suggestion fo=
r my friend.
> > > > > > > > > > =A0
> > > > > > > > > > I wonder why a budget US based supplier such as Nady do=
esn't offer something similar. Maybe they do; I haven't looked yet.
> > > > > > > > > > =A0
> > > > > > > > > > The LS-10 owner hasn't said=A0whether any of my suggest=
ions have helped.
> > > > > > > > > > =A0
> > > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > > > Florida
> > > > > > > > > > www.ParrotSpeech.com
> > > > > > > > > > =A0
> > > > > > > > > > =A0
> > > > > > > > > > Re: Noise in LS-10
> > > > > > > > > > Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
> > > > > > > > > > "Max" oatcruncher
> > > > > > > > > > Forgot the link:
> > > > > > > > > > http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ naturerecordists =
/message/ 49179
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, "Max" <maxca=
tterwell@ ...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Da=
lton <mdaltonarielle@ > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The other approach would be to use an external mike a=
nd preamp. Is there a miniature system that is decent and inexpensive for b=
ypassing the internal mikes?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > > > > > Florida
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.parrotsp eech.com/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > See my iRig post here
> > > > > > > > > > > Max
> > > > > > > > > > >
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