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Re: Miniature Pseudo-SASS Array

Subject: Re: Miniature Pseudo-SASS Array
From: "Klas Strandberg" klasstrandberg
Date: Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:40 pm ((PDT))
Hi everyone, I can't stay out of this, even if I perhaps should.

At http://klas.telinga.com/SSM-SASS/ there is a comparison between 
the Telinga SSM and the SASS. I put up this site only to ask a few 
people that I trust, to say their opinions.

The site is messy and you have to read the track descriptions 
carefully. But it does give an impression on how different, or alike, 
two systems can be. The microphone capsules are the same.

Bernie, about Curts rig and the "Murie" mike,
It seems to me as if our brain (hearing) mostly is quite pleased with 
getting some "clues" about what is happening and that unconscious 
processes, based on experience, add what is lacking. In this issue 
about mini-mic's, it means that the brain only needs a stereo "reach 
out" at some higher frequencies and adds the rest by experience.
This is supported by recent psychological experiment on seeing. There 
are evidence that the brain can take decisions much faster than what 
ever reaches our conscious part of the brain, simply by getting some 
"clues" and then adding, based on experience and probability. It's 
really a revival of Freud, actually, but in other words and focusing 
on perception.
If so, it might explain why I "feel" the difference between different 
mic systems and also between different loudspeaker systems. Some 
systems seem to make "emotional sense", while others do not. It could 
be that some systems make my brain work hard to fill the gaps, 
(stress) while other systems already contains most of what my brain 
needs, (tranquility).

It's a speculation, but it would partly explain "why it works" when 
it "shouldn't". The Murie mike "worked" but I never "felt" 
comfortable with it, even though I tried and tried. Instead of 
enjoying what I heard, I was all the time busy thinking about what 
would happen if the capsules were more apart, or more angled out, or 
closer, or.... what? I could never relax to what I heard.

Klas.





At 17:39 2012-08-11, you wrote:
><<The SASS-type rigs deliver a super clean image without any of the 
>"wavy" microphone interactions that are common to ORTF, M-S and 
>Spaced-Omni arrays. >>
>
>Could you describe what you mean by "wavy"? Given how vastly 
>different ORTF, MS & Spaced Omni are from each I can't imagine what 
>characteristic they would all have in common. Are you referring to 
>the partial blending toward mono of any non-baffled array?
>
>Scott Fraser
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