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Re: Composite detection

Subject: Re: Composite detection
From: "Luis" lecarmo
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:27 pm ((PDT))
Michael Dalton <> wrote:
>

> About Amazona Aestiva ... there is a problem in life ... that is the
difficulty people have understanding bird speech that is not a hackneyed
phrase. Consequently, what sounds like "walla" to many people, might, in
fact, be a statement made by the bird. I have considerable experience
listening to bird speech; sometimes owners send me clips of what they
call "mumbles."




Mike,



That made me recollect my experience and yes, the bird sounded as if he
(a male parrot) was "mumbling". It occurs to me that the bird could be
"talking to himself". This speculation rises from the fact that this
specific bird used to speak in a very intelligible manner (I know
Amazona Aestivas are known for being articulate, but every being is
unique) and the "mumblings" only occurred while he was by himself, not
addressing to anyone. Among people he used to speak a very broad
repertoire and was capable of singing long pieces of songs, all
performed in a well-articulated manner.

>
> Luis, if you have a clip featuring "walla," I'd like to hear it. Of
course if it is in a language other than English, my effectiveness is
greatly reduced, but I still might perceive something of interest.

Unfortunately the bird is deceased for many years and I don't have
any recordings, which would be, in this specific case, in Portuguese.

Luis

>
> Mike
> Florida
> www.ParrotSpeech.com
>
>
>
> Re: Composite detection
> Posted by: "Luis do Carmo"  lecarmo
> Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:38 pm (PDT)
>
>
> If one edits excerpts from the same sample or from different takes of
> sounds recorded at the same environment and using the same gear, it'll
be very
> hard to detect the editing if it's skillfully done. That's what sound
editors
> do all the time while editing and designing dialogue, ambient sounds
and sfx
> for movies.
> =C2
> Way off topic:
> =C2
> I've known an Amazona Aestiva which
> used to emulate something that resembled what is called 'walla' among
film
> sound people. It sounded similar to a chat between a couple people,
rather than
> a crowd chattering though. I referred to it as walla as the words
sounded quite
> unintelligible, resembling a conversation taking place at a distance.
The intonation
> and melodic nuances were so alike the 'real' thing that I was deceived
the
> first time I heard the bird performing his 'act'.
> =C2
> Luis
>
>
>










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