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Subject: Re: Which Location Recorder - Which Mics...
From: "soundsvisual" soundsvisual
Date: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:32 am ((PDT))
Hi Emil

Thanks very much for your detailed response.
I can't really afford/justify a Sound Devices box.
I will look at the Tascam - Digital Village have it for around =C2=A3750, b=
ut I still need to get some mics. Do you think it has the edge over the Fos=
tex? I will almost always just be recording 2 channels.

What would you suggest microphone wise? The MKH setup is great like you say=
 but expensive and big. It doesn't have to be M-S - I'd prefer something mo=
re discreet if poss...? Is there a stereo mic in one piece worth considerin=
g or is that a no no?

Please do go into the detail - because SFX is what I record. From the hush =
of a library to a steam train etc.

Is the D50 worth considering if you are going to bypass the mic preamps and=
 have separate microphones with your own preamp?

Thanks,

Jonathan




> hi jonathan,
>
> the pcm50 is great, but its not low noise. i just had one with me my last
> holiday. i did some recordings and they are , wll, not bad, but if you al=
so
> try to record more quiet locations, forget the pcm50. the mics inside are
> far too noisy. and the sound is always.. like you=C3=82=C2=B4ve recorded =
everything
> with a little box.
> thats very subjective. its a great unit if you want to record something o=
n
> the go, and i believe it sounds much better than those other pocket
> recorders (for instance, i have the zoom H2, and the pcm50 is better than
> the H2, less noise, better depth), but if you want to record seriously fi=
ne
> sounds, get a sound devices or this fostex recorder.. or the new tascam
> with the 6 channel preamp. i tested it against the 702, and it did really
> well, search the group for the link, rob mad a great video about it.
>
> if you like the rme pre amp, a great thing is the quad mic from rme. it c=
an
> run from batterie, and it sounds great. i tested it and in a blind test m=
e
> and a colleage thought that the quadmic sounded better than the 702.
> allthough just a little bit.
> you could put this preamp infront of the tascam or fostex, and you will g=
et
> a quality same to the 702. but a little bulkier..
>
> and to answer which mic, the 30/40 combination is great and maybe one of
> the most quietest MS out there. not comparable (cause they are so much
> better) to the mics from the pcm50, they play in a different league..:-)
>
> also consider the shoeps, much more noisier, but for some sfx recordings
> they are a little better...  (if you want to record sfx i can go into
> detail about this..)
>
> also a great mic: the AT4021 if you want to have a cardioid. low noise. i
> compared it to the mkh40, and it is doing good. noisier but good.
> i can give you this comparison if you like.
>
> all the best
> emil
>
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:53:00 -0000, "soundsvisual"
> <> wrote:
> > Hi - have followed this group for a while now. I used to record sound
> > effects professionally for a library using an HHB Portadat and a
> Sennheiser
> > MKH30-40 or 60 mic rig. I sold all of that kit a while ago, but am
> getting
> > back into location recording.
> >
> > At the moment the kit I am using is no good for wet weather or discreet
> > work as I'm using a MacBook Pro, an RME Fireface 400 (bus powered) and =
a
> > pair of matched Rode NT1s. I mean great quality - incredibly low noise
> > (maybe a little brittle sounding?) but in terms of being "portable" or
> > discreet - no. So which way to go? I love the RME Fireface 400 pre-amps
> > they are excellent, but not sure how I would power that unit without th=
e
> > MacBook?
> >
> > So I've looked at a Sony PCMD50 - would be great for discreet work - an=
d
> if
> > I wanted to use some different mics I could get a phantom power pack an=
d
> go
> > that route. That's the most cost effective way, and I like the idea of
> > being able to put it in my pocket - would be good for recording ambient
> > sounds where a big rig is going to start questions from security etc...
> >
> > Or if money was no object, would a SoundDevices recorder and a Sennheis=
er
> > 30/40 rig be so much better?
> >
> > I suppose the answer is both.
> >
> > As far as mics are concered, the NT1s are great except I have no basket
> for
> > them - just a couple of windjammers to slip over the top, and they are
> > mounted on a camera tripod.
> >
> > So any tips for a stereo mic (maybe m-s)- v low noise - better than
> onboard
> > the Sony PCMD50?
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
>








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