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Re: MHK800 Twin versus MKH30/40

Subject: Re: MHK800 Twin versus MKH30/40
From: "James Shatto" wwwshadow7
Date: Sat Sep 4, 2010 11:28 am ((PDT))
Bear in mind that you can always make an OMNI mic LESS directional.  Some b=
affling or other things.  Some cardboard, some of those foam rings that com=
e with stacks of blank optical media.  Some velcro cord ties wrapped around=
 and around and around.  Whatever works.

- James


--- On Fri, 9/3/10, clay <> wrote:

> From: clay <>
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] MHK800 Twin versus MKH30/40
> To: 
> Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 5:56 PM
> thanks Rob,
>
> I keep forgetting about the side-facing 'feature'.=A0
> :)
> thanks for the reminder.
>
> and thanks to Grant as well, I have a 20 that I use with my
> 30 occasionally
> as well.=A0 Now I won't feel so 'weird' when I pair an
> omni with a figure-8.
>
> going back to the 800 Twin for a moment, I"m assuming this
> can operate as a
> side facing 'stereo' mic (which much better side noise
> characteristics than
> the MKH418S) so long as I assume mid-side
> decoding/monitoring?
>
> clay
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Rob Danielson <>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > At 10:20 AM -0400 9/3/10, clay wrote:
> > >Rob says:
> > >
> > >"There's the MKH-80/800 which sounds very
> different from the MKH-30 to
> > >me in figure 8 mode. Rob D."
> > >
> > >Rob,
> > >
> > >can you share the differences you've heard?
> > >
> > >I've got a 30/40 combo now, and am considering the
> 800 twin as a single
> > mike
> > >alternative for mid-side.
> > >
> > >thoughts? anyone?
> > >
> > >thanks much
> > >clay
> > >
> >
> > Hi Clay--
> >
> > I don't own the both of them now so I can do a
> comparison for you--
> > the only way I really feel comfortable about assessing
> differences.
> >
> > The biggest difference for my uses (high gain natural
> ambience) was
> > in the lower midrange clarity 125-500 Hz. IMO, all
> mics are
> > challenged in this range for distant subject/large
> spaces. The
> > MKH80's produce more tonality- have a little less
> tonal
> > simplification (drones) in this range compared the the
> single capsule
> > mkh's. The 2-3 dB(A) less self-noise is a plus, but
> not a huge deal.
> > The HF looks better over 10KHz; some report the
> 80/800's response is
> > less noisy up there.
> >
> > You would not be disappointed with a pair of them but
> note they are
> > side address mics and cannot be used with flush
> mounted boundaries
> > and not very well in perp either. They'd probably need
> vertical
> > mounting if a pair was used in MS. I have a pair of
> 80's which I've
> > been using in a Jecklin array and gaining some
> experience with. Aaron
> > Ximm has some 800's I think. Rob D
> >
> > --
> >
> >=A0
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via
> Bernie Krause
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>
> =A0 =A0 
>
>
>









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