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Re: FR-2LE & AT4022

Subject: Re: FR-2LE & AT4022
From: "Paul Jacobson" thebrunswicktwitcher
Date: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:30 pm ((PST))
Hi Paul

I wrote a short article on a side by side comparison recording of SASS and =
parallel boundary rigs which was published in the December 2008 issue of Au=
dioWings (Vol 11, No. 2). The recordings were made by Andrew Skeoch and mys=
elf in late 2008. The comparison was done with our rigs set up side by side=
 with around 2 metres spacing. There was minimal post processing done - gai=
n was matched and it looks like a 50hz high pass filter was applied.

Reading the article again and listening to the recordings I'm not sure I wo=
uld have made the same comments.  There are lots of variables at play in th=
e comparison but it might give you an idea of some of the differences in pr=
esentation between SASS and headspaced parallel boundary array.

I'm in the process of reworking the design of the AWSRG site at the moment =
and haven't finalised the format for online journal articles so you'll have=
 to excuse the presentation and rough edges.

http://www.awsrg.org.au/audiowings/vol11/no2/notes-two-stereo-rigs

cheers
Paul

On 12/03/2010, at 10:25 AM, "thesilverloon" <> wrote=
:

> Thanks David,
> Its my intention to use twin AT4022 mics with the Sony PCM M-10 and the A=
rt Phantom 11 power supply. I would like to build a spaced timber baffle, t=
o mount the mics. Are you able to tell me on the rig that you used, the dis=
tance between the mics, and the setback from the leading edge?
> I realize that there are many variations out there, but being non tech I =
have to start some where. If anyone else in this group has built similar, p=
lease feel free to respond. One last question. What is the audio difference=
 between the above and using the AT4022's in a modified Crown SASS unit?
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> --- In  David Michael <=
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad you stumbled on those recordings for A Deep Forest Creek, I
>> was going to post something back to the list sooner or later ...
>> The project was produced during the Mamori Sound Project artist
>> residency/workshop this past winter. It is a phenomenal opportunity to
>> record in the tropics and something that many of you on list would
>> probably enjoy. The program is extremely well organized and
>> thoughtful.
>> http://malab.net
>>
>> The recording profiles a day in one particular location of the
>> Brasilian Amazon, and as such has a running time of 19+ hours. One of
>> the goals of recording at this duration was to reveal some of the
>> circadian sound structures of the forest. These structures are easier
>> to describe in words that to listen to, but I find it an interesting
>> challenge for the listener to discover them. I have listened to the
>> recording dozens of times and still hear new things. The original
>> recording was made in 4 channels (2 stereo) spaced about 10 meters or
>> so. I used a pair of AT4022s (unmatched) and a Sennheiser 30/40 MS
>> array. There are other details on the site. For the moment, I have
>> unlinked the downloadable copy to minimize bandwidth costs.
>>
>> If those of you reading this would like a copy of the entire 19 hour
>> recording, please contact me off list.
>> I was planning on producing a small edition of pre-loaded mp3 players
>> with a choice of either a creek view (4022s) or a forest view (MKH
>> 30/40). They will not be expensive.
>>
>> As Paul mentioned, there are shorter excerpts that are mostly
>> organized on my SoundCloud pages - you should be able to download
>> those in full resolution. The only processing I did on that recording
>> was equalization and light soft-knee limiting. Without equalization,
>> the "veil of insects" was overwhelming and did not match the listening
>> environment, that is to say that the microphones "hear" in ways my
>> ears did not.
>>
>> All of the following recordings were made with AT4022s in a spaced
>> wooden baffle copied from designs by Curt Olson.
>>
>> http://soundcloud.com/dmichael/frogs-and-toads-a-deep-forest-creek
>> http://soundcloud.com/dmichael/dawn-a-deep-forest-creek
>> http://soundcloud.com/dmichael/tinkling-frogs-a-deep-forest-creek
>>
>> The AT4022 is a little champ. I cannot comment on quieter recording
>> situations since this was their trial run, but their ruggedness and
>> resistance to humidity related distortion was epic. Let's see how time
>> wears on them.
>>
>> As far as the FR2-LE, I also have one of these and would highly
>> recommend it with one caveat. You cannot record more than 4GB and it
>> does not record continuously. This means if you are trying to do
>> recordings of longer durations than say 4 or 5 hours, this unit is not
>> for you.
>>
>> Cheers
>> David
>>
>
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