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Re: Muriemike and falling snow

Subject: Re: Muriemike and falling snow
From: "Klas Strandberg" klasstrandberg
Date: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:55 am ((PST))
Yes, you are right.

Had my tripod head been more flexible, I could have pointed more
downwards with the mike and thereby given more "snow-sparkles" in the
center. However, a "HF-hole" in the middle is a "problem" with this
kind of mikes.
I wish I had had five more minutes testing the mike with this
"snow-sparkling!" I have never ever heard a similar "tiny" sound, so
widely and equally spread all over the place. It sounded like the
whole universe was sparkling! Now there is 10 inches of snow all over
and I will be very lucky to record such an event again.

The hole is a consequence of the two mikes, boosting HF sideways and
can only (...?) be heard (in a bothersome way..?) when you record a
widespread "sparkle all around" as when the grain snow hit the frozen
leaves in this almost panorama way.

A more "common" stereo picture is at the the ending of
http://www.telinga.com/gallery/tripple_birdfeed.mp3 where you don=B4t
clearly hear the hole, as there are no audible HF getting boosted
from the sides. Birds are flying between the feeder and a tree at the
left, and I don't hear any bothersome change of wing sounds over the area.
I have tried out a prototype where the mic capsules point forward,
not to "shade" themselves, but then I loose some of the "crispiness"
that I like and that so easily can be filtered, then also reducing
some of the mic self noise.

The point with trying to design something like the Muriemike, is to
create a easy, handy and fast system for SoundScapes, reliable,
insensitive to wind and handling noise and giving a sound which is
nice to the ear.
If "State of the Art" measurements + a good middle is required, only
the best M/S system will do and then we enter into another world, you know.
Still, I must say, - I have heard professional  M/S recordings which
have been less "alive" than from binaural and semi-binaural set-up's,
some M/S has even been "flat".

But I agree with you, jeremiah, the track would have been even nicer
with "sparkles" all over. I try to stay happy having got the recording at a=
ll.

The design of the MurieMike is an adventure! There are many options
to make it more and more complicated in order to make it more
accurate, but I must not end up with something which cannot be easily
manufactured.

Best wishes from Klas and a snowy Sweden.



At 00:13 2009-12-15, you wrote:
>klas-
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>The reverberation of car tires crushing ice, amidst the close-to-mid field
>ice crystals, and later bird vocalizations is a very nice image.
>
>There does not appear to be a strong center (nor is there a "central"
>subject.)  For me, this is very nice for ambience.
>
>Assuming this is the Olympus LS-10.  (?)
>
>-jeremiah
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>On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Klas Strandberg <> wrot=
e:
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> > New MP3 at http://www.telinga.com/gallery/gallery_private.htm
> >
> > I have never heard it before.
> >
> > Klas.
> >
> > Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> > Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> > email:  <telinga%40bahnhof.se>
> > website: www.telinga.com
> >
> >
> >
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>--
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>jeremiah moore | SOUND | 
>http://www.jeremiahmoore.com/
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>------------------------------------
>
>"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
email: 
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