Wonderful! I am extremely excited about the possibilities you have thrown at
me here! I like the idea of the Rode NT1-A's because I also perform in a large
choir and play a few instruments and it looks like I would have great results
from these mics.
Alternately, there is obviously a lot to be gained from having a more PORTABLE
rig, so I will ALSO look into your other suggestion of the Shure WL-183's and
see what I can work up. This is extremely exciting and I again thank you all
for all of the advice and the warm welcome I've gotten here.
As an aside that I hope you won't mind, folks...
I have many hobbies. I am a computer nerd (my living), a paintball enthusiast,
I compete in handgun competitions (IPSC, IDPA, Steel for those that know),
enjoy photography and writing music and singing and all that. The hobbies
that I MOST enjoy are those that are primarily full of people who love what
they do so much that all they want to do is get others excited about it as
well! Elitism is fun for some, but can turn new folks right off of a
potentially rewarding hobby. Now it may be that I found the one and only
group of nice folks in a field full of snobs, but you have all been more than
kind and I appreciate everything you've all shared with me.
--- In Rob Danielson <> wrote:
>
> At 8:00 PM +0000 6/29/09, brucethehoon wrote:
> >Thank you so much for your reply. The number of private email
> >replies I got rather overwhelmed me and as such I didn't get back to
> >the group in my usual speedy manner.
> >
> >To update, I have purchased the PCM-D50, realizing that I really
> >don't care how much this costs, but ruggedness is a factor.
> >
> >That said, as requested below, my first and most important use will
> >be to record one hour or more of waves / surf at a california beach
> >with 30mph winds gusting to 50mph.
> >
> >I will have the unit on a sand compatible tripod (legs buried) and
> >would like to record the EXPERIENCE of being there. While not
> >necessarily suggesting a binaural setup, I would like to play it
> >back later and be fairly able to close my eyes and be there again.
> >
> >If I was able to pack the whole setup (excluding tripod) into an
> >average sized backback, that would be "portable" for me.
> >
> >Spending ANOTHER $300-500 on microphones seems reasonable to me. I
> >can appreciate that it might seem absurd to drop so much in advance,
> >but I would rather take the risk of spending too much money than
> >take the risk of getting a lower quality recording during a once in
> >a lifetime trip.
> >
> >I am using Shure E5C's as my listening method, so I suppose anything
> >they can't play, I don't care about, when it comes to quality :)
> >
>
> Hi Bruce--
> In the $300-$500/pair price range, the rigs that John Hartog and
> variations others have made for Rode NT1-A's have produced striking
> recordings and these ultra low-noise mics provide the ability to
> record very quiet locations too.
> http://www.rockscallop.org/how/barrier10.html Any condenser mic will
> require phantom powering which the PCM-D50 doesn't have. The cheapest
> way to provide phantom powering (with no compromise in quality) is
> with a portable phantom power supply like an Art Phantom II or Rolls
> PB224.
>
> For dealing with steady winds that strong, Rich Peet has some designs
> made with "Shop Vac" filters that work very well. [Contact him
> directly at If you go with a traditional
> zeppelin approach, I'd favor a larger than usual "basket" size with
> 3-4" of dead air space around the capsules, an inner liner made of
> taut panty hose stocking and an outer layer of long pile fake fur (2"
> or longer). Here are some NT1-A ideas:
> http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-reports/Rode_NT1-A_Mics/NT1-A_index.htm
>
> Another thought. Surf and wind are quite loud so you can get by with
> small electret mics and put some energy into making wind protection
> for them. The tiny Panasonic WM-61A's mics are very accurate in terms
> of tonal response and can be purchased in a variety of packages well
> under $100 a pair:
> http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-reports/PanasonicWM-61A_OtherBinauralRigs/docs/CompareCommercialLavs_1_2009.doc
>
> The popular Shure WL-183's are larger and quieter. You'll find lots
> of discussion about the WL-183's in the list archive. These electret
> mics will produce considerable "hiss" if used in quiet locations
> where the record level is turned up high but they are fine in loud
> locations. Rob D.
>
>
>
> --
>
"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause
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