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Re: AES - Nagra VI

Subject: Re: AES - Nagra VI
From: "Greg Simmons" simmosonics
Date: Tue Oct 7, 2008 4:09 pm ((PDT))
--- In  Martyn Stewart <>
wrote:
>
> I would like to point out that I started my original post  from a
> "nature recordist" perspective, after all, this is what this
groups
> about, right?

Whew, I'm glad you pointed that out Martyn. I was beginning to think
that you had it in for me. It seems like everything I post here gets
over-scrutinised and ultimately trounced by the moderator as
being "not relevant to nature recording", but I guess I'm just being
paranoid and overly sensitive. And you're right, of course, this
group is all about a "nature recordist" perspective...

Therefore, by definition, this group is also about an exchange of
ideas and opinions (i.e. perspectives) related to nature recording,
isn't it? If not, I'll unsubscribe and get out of your hair because
I'm obviously mistaken. The last time I checked this group was
called 'nature recordists', not 'Nature Recording the Martyn Stewart
Way'. ;-)

You posted your opinion about the Nagra VI based on looking at one at
an AES trade show that you were in and out of in one day, and then
filtering that through your considerable experience as a nature
recordist. Ultimately, you declared that you wouldn't touch it with a
barge pole. Fair enough. I posted a 'balancing' opinion based on
living and working with the machine for one month, making commercial
quality recordings for broadcast and/or release under pressure to
deliver an acceptable end result, and filtering that through my own
recording experiences - including my experiences recording nature
sounds. I declared that I would touch it with a barge pole.

They're both valid points of view, IMO, because not all of the people
on this list are interested *solely* in recording nature sounds, and
therefore their equipment choices need to be more versatile. There
are many names and URLs here that crop up in other on-line places I
frequent, including topics such as phonography, audio mastering,
acoustic music recording and general recording studio issues.
Nonetheless, those people *do* record nature sounds and therefore are
valid members of this group. And, in some cases, their recordings are
for commercial purposes and so a very high standard is required.

For those people, like me, an investment in recording technology
might need to be more multi-purpose and versatile than something that
is only suited to nature recording. A machine like the Nagra VI might
be a consideration, so qualified opinions (positive and negative)
discussing its potential for nature recording surely belong here.

We can't *all* afford LS10s, you know... ;-)

- Greg Simmons

P.S. I'm curious, Martyn. While at the trade show did you actually
sling the Nagra VI over your shoulder or put it in a backpack and
carry it around for a couple of hours? Did you actually plug a mic
into it, walk outdoors away from the din of the trade show and take a
listen? Did you check out the huge selection of input sensitivities
available to finely match the preamp's gain stage to your mic's
output and thus optimise the recording's noise floor? Did you attempt
to create folders, name files and edit meta-data (on the go or after
the event)? Did you actually make a recording of anything at all with
it? As I said, I'm just curious...


> --- In  Martyn Stewart <mstew@>
> wrote:
>
>  > I would NOT touch the new Nagra VI with a barge pole nor would I
>  > consider the "Fusion or "Deva" recorders from Zaxcom.





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